#linuxcnc | Logs for 2019-09-22

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[00:02:11] <CaptHindsight> http://www.on-time.com
[00:03:06] <Lcvette> Tom_L: hahaha
[00:07:05] <CaptHindsight> http://www.on-time.com
[00:07:32] <CaptHindsight> Task-switch time of about 6 microseconds (33 Mhz 486)
[00:07:48] <Lcvette> rtkernel for windows?
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[01:50:26] <_unreal_> win10 realtime is the special driver from artsoft "mach3-4" etc..
[01:51:16] <_unreal_> its just installing mach3 etc... and it installs a " real time " driver to take over windows totally when running mach3
[01:51:51] <XXCoder> geez
[01:52:07] <XXCoder> i cant picture how sensive to versioning that is
[01:52:55] <_unreal_> ? could be I dont know
[01:53:00] <_unreal_> well almost 2am I'm going to bed
[01:53:08] <XXCoder> later
[01:53:18] <_unreal_> just finished putting that new putter together
[01:53:26] <_unreal_> soo SOOOO many damn screws
[01:53:42] <_unreal_> all in one monitor/computer envy23
[01:53:58] <_unreal_> when I get a new touch screen bezel for it I'm going to use it as my cnc controller
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[01:57:24] <XXCoder> nice
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[02:32:00] <XXCoder> welcvome back ms. pink
[02:32:37] <pink_vampire> Awww,
[02:32:40] <pink_vampire> hi XXCoder
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[02:32:56] <XXCoder> man im so bored
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[02:33:21] <pink_vampire> why?
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[02:33:31] <pink_vampire> I'm trying to design a cnc machine
[02:37:15] <XXCoder> yeah? mpcnc isnt it
[02:39:58] <pink_vampire> No, the MPCNC become trash after I saw how Ryan from V1 Engineering. react to the improvement that TOM did.
[02:40:14] <pink_vampire> so I'm building my own
[02:40:39] <XXCoder> cool :) using alum parts or?
[02:40:52] <XXCoder> oh yeah lemme a second
[02:40:55] <pink_vampire> no idea yet
[02:41:13] <pink_vampire> probably mix
[02:41:20] <XXCoder> i engraved it couple years ago, but painted yeserday. https://imgur.com
[02:41:22] <XXCoder> looks good
[02:41:46] <pink_vampire> WOW that is look soo nice!!
[02:42:15] <XXCoder> yeah
[02:45:48] <XXCoder> this is kind of stuff I want to make, art and stuff
[02:45:52] <XXCoder> too bad cnc is down bleh
[02:46:06] <pink_vampire> just power on
[02:47:02] <XXCoder> no place to put cnc and its computer :)
[02:47:30] <pink_vampire> change it to grbl
[02:47:50] <pink_vampire> so you don't need a computer for it
[02:48:33] <XXCoder> no, literally no room for machine itself
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[03:05:40] <Deejay> moin
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[05:22:47] <XXCoder> :(
[05:22:53] <XXCoder> actor for Nog just died/
[05:22:59] <XXCoder> Aron Eisenberg
[05:23:49] <pink_vampire> what is the best coupler from 5mm to 8mm?
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[05:38:53] <Loetmichel> XXCoder: sad
[05:39:00] <XXCoder> yeah
[05:39:07] <Loetmichel> best wishes to his family
[05:39:18] <Loetmichel> freshly married, too IIRC
[05:39:35] <Loetmichel> pink_vampire: depends on what you want to do with it
[05:40:07] <Loetmichel> i would always use "claw" type couplings for steppers and stuff, they need a second bearing on the spindle though
[05:58:09] <pink_vampire> loLoetmichel: I need it for a cnc that I'm building right now, and I'm not sure what is the best one to use, there is the aluminum flex type, spider, and ridged
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[06:18:51] <Tom_L> morning
[06:19:43] <Tom_L> pink, spider.
[06:20:09] <pink_vampire> this is what I'm also thinking
[06:20:25] <pink_vampire> but I'm going to use the T8 screw..
[06:20:38] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[06:20:40] <Tom_L> left one
[06:20:49] <pink_vampire> so a low price point is my goal here
[06:24:25] <pink_vampire> I have a spider type on my milling machine
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[06:44:17] <jthornton> morning
[06:44:33] <XXCoder> hey
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[07:19:05] <miss0r> 'ello
[07:19:39] <jthornton> hay
[07:20:21] <XXCoder> horse
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[07:26:03] <miss0r> XXCoder: That guy with the reamer was nuts :D
[07:26:12] <XXCoder> yeah?
[07:26:19] <XXCoder> $10 per gram? ;)
[07:26:33] <miss0r> not *that* crazy.. but close to it
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[07:26:40] <XXCoder> geez
[07:27:00] <miss0r> I mean; reamers that are just piled on top of eachother, some are rusted and the majority of them has small dings in the flutes from the storage and handling
[07:27:21] <miss0r> and he somehow feel like he need to tell me how much they were from new.. and that that should effect the price lol
[07:27:33] <miss0r> it *should* on some level
[07:27:39] <XXCoder> make a new price claim: having hard time selling em
[07:28:04] <miss0r> I told him to contact me when(if) noone else wants to pay out big buck for it
[07:30:25] <XXCoder> he will probably cut 10 bucks off it
[07:31:27] <miss0r> per gram, hopefully
[07:31:48] <XXCoder> lol yeah
[07:32:29] <miss0r> meh.. well, it might get more for it, if he sells one item per buyer over time - when people need it
[07:32:50] <miss0r> I always go into this sort of deal like "if I get to use two of the more expensive items, I will break even"
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[08:49:21] <_unreal_> nothing like waking up because you have to PISS like crazy
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[09:11:51] <miss0r> _unreal_: Nothing like waking up finding out you *had* to piss like crazy
[09:13:48] <_unreal_> its been at least 40 years since that last happend
[09:24:30] <miss0r> I have another version: nothing like waking up finding out your kid *had* to piss like crazy, while you share the bed...
[09:42:12] <_unreal_> *hum
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[11:34:29] <pink_vampire> hi
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[11:44:45] <_unreal_> why me....
[11:44:53] <jthornton> it's your turn
[11:44:55] <_unreal_> I use to be a nurse.
[11:45:08] <_unreal_> nurse med tech.....
[11:45:42] <_unreal_> gave it up because I was tired of dealing with postmortem
[11:46:32] <_unreal_> My next door neighbors are elderly and have been FAM friends for the last 20 years.... and they are having health issues. just had to go help for the past hour becuase her husband was on the floor again
[11:47:29] <_unreal_> and going back in 30min to go give there grand daughter a rid home so they can go to the hospital. THEN I get to go get my daughter that fun 3.5hr drive
[11:47:34] <_unreal_> I cant do anything
[11:48:09] <Tom_L> doesn't sound like anything to me. just not what you had planned
[11:49:14] <pink_vampire> what is the name for that style of driving? https://cdn.shopify.com
[11:49:16] <_unreal_> its funny I've held 5 med liscenses and I gave it all up
[11:49:30] <_unreal_> belt
[11:49:36] <_unreal_> belt drive?
[11:49:54] <pink_vampire> I know.. but it is shape like omega
[11:50:14] <_unreal_> Thats just a tension loop? if there is a name to it I'm not sure
[11:50:33] <jthornton> yea looks like a normal belt drive to me
[11:50:33] <pink_vampire> I'm trying to find a parametric design of something like that
[11:50:40] <Tom_L> just for convenience and maybe tension
[11:50:55] <Tom_L> you get better drive contact that way
[11:51:04] <Tom_L> than a triangle
[11:51:11] <jthornton> that design is to get more teeth to engage the belt
[11:51:20] <_unreal_> more teeth in the cog
[11:51:30] <_unreal_> maybe cog and pully?
[11:51:47] <jthornton> is that a cogsworth cog?
[11:52:03] <_unreal_> could be
[11:52:47] <jthornton> yea doesn't look like a spacely sprocket
[11:55:11] <Tom_L> i wonder if they space the rollers clocer than the pulley radius so it doesn't tend to pull up in one direction or the other under load tension
[11:55:30] <Tom_L> sp/pulley radius/pulley diameter
[11:55:39] <_unreal_> I not likely
[11:56:10] <_unreal_> more for teeth engagement
[11:56:19] <_unreal_> and tension
[11:56:20] <Tom_L> i suppose the 2 outer rollers keep it from doing that
[11:57:00] <Tom_L> i'm talking about the whole frame
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[11:57:13] <Tom_L> it would be minimal but probably could be measured
[12:02:02] <Tom_L> https://www.bell-everman.com
[12:02:14] <Tom_L> reminds me of that only without the belt to belt contact
[12:03:25] <pink_vampire> no cad :(
[12:03:43] <Tom_L> they used to have an animation somewhere there
[12:04:45] <Tom_L> https://www.bell-everman.com
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[12:06:36] <pink_vampire> so it is almost like rack and pinion?
[12:06:54] <Tom_L> similar
[12:09:57] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com
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[14:14:47] <Deejay> re
[14:25:29] <miss0r> first parts are ordered for the shaper head :o
[14:25:56] <miss0r> Now theres no turning back :D
[14:26:24] <Tom_L> :O
[14:27:32] <miss0r> I ordered some gears. I had to "move the center of the spindle" for this to work
[14:27:47] <miss0r> some O2 tool steel & some silver steel for the pivot points ect.
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[14:56:19] <_unreal_> ok I'm back for a few
[14:56:33] <_unreal_> again fun with the neighbors
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[14:57:00] <_unreal_> and made a stop into harbor freight. go figure I found that hacksaw I've been looking for in the house at harbor freight....
[14:57:02] <_unreal_> just wierd
[14:57:11] <_unreal_> wierd how things work out like that
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[16:00:17] <sync> andypugh: ping
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[16:13:30] <_unreal_> pong
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[17:10:47] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com
[17:10:56] <skunkworks> I hate trim and tin work...
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[17:15:30] <XXCoder> fun
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[17:22:27] <Tom_L> skunkworks, gonna have welded seams?
[17:22:49] <Tom_L> takin shape though
[17:23:06] <Tom_L> no i see the screws now...
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[17:33:40] <Deejay> gn8
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[17:48:03] <jthornton> looks good skunkworks
[18:08:47] <jthornton> look skunkworks machined a tape measure from a hunk of aluminum!~
[18:09:34] <skunkworks> heh
[18:09:50] <skunkworks> I resemble that...
[18:10:27] <skunkworks> Have to figure out how I am going to do the doors
[18:10:46] <jthornton> that will be fun
[18:11:07] <XXCoder> make it from alum bars and sheet
[18:13:21] <jthornton> got some radishes planted today and filled up 6 bags with black gold chicken poop compost
[18:18:36] <XXCoder> cool
[18:19:25] <jthornton> yea finally got that figured out, it was a mess when I started but I didn't know enough of what to add when it didn't look right
[18:26:01] <XXCoder> farming hobby?
[18:26:26] <jthornton> chickens?
[18:27:26] <XXCoder> lol ok
[18:27:52] <jthornton> I use the compost in my garden or give it to other friends that have raised bed gardens
[18:28:04] <jthornton> and it's a clean way to deal with the poop
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[18:28:32] <XXCoder> yeah
[18:28:46] <XXCoder> dont chicken poop make for really rich ferilizer?
[18:28:48] <jthornton> and the chickens love to dig in it looking for worms
[18:29:05] <jthornton> you can't add poop to a garden until you compost it
[18:29:11] <jthornton> or coffee grounds
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[19:04:44] <XXCoder> yeah it would umm burn plants? forgot specific words
[19:22:26] <andypugh> sync: Err. yes?
[19:31:10] <sync> andypugh: a tad too late but that's ok
[19:31:23] <sync> I was going to inquire about timingchain gear wear
[19:31:41] <sync> but we took it apart and it looks alright so I'll just slap in a new chain
[19:35:04] <CaptHindsight> do you have one of those "quieting" nylon covered timing gears?
[19:35:28] <CaptHindsight> another "feature" that gets brittle and falls off over time
[19:36:29] <sync> no, just steel
[19:36:39] <sync> not even a fancy quiet timing chain
[19:38:05] <andypugh> I like the rubber damped front sprockets.
[19:38:48] <andypugh> My R1 (and my Holbrook lathe) use the inverted-tooth “silent” chain which runs on gears.
[19:39:56] <sync> yeah, I spun a bearing in my N57 in the strangest way possible
[19:40:06] <sync> and it did not even kill the block or crank
[19:47:31] <andypugh> “strangest way possible” is quite a claim. Did it include a rubber gimp-suit and a slice of cheese?
[19:48:18] <sync> I had a low oil pressure event at 4500rpm and 100% load
[19:48:34] <sync> but that seems secondary
[19:48:55] <sync> the first main bearing moved forward off the crank into the harmonic balancer
[19:49:30] <andypugh> That was very naughty of it
[19:49:31] <XXCoder> there is no bottom on strangeness
[19:49:55] <sync> and the crank as well as the bearing block look ok
[19:50:11] <sync> I have never spun a bearing at full load and not wiped out the block or crank
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[19:57:22] <_unreal_> sigh
[19:58:07] <_unreal_> finally got my rails monted on this thing I'm bilding for my daughter. some how the rails are off by a 1mm to all of the carrages... not sure how could be flex in my machine?
[19:58:28] <_unreal_> but the alignment is perfect..
[19:58:49] <CaptHindsight> I have had harmonic balancers break and drop bits into the timing chain causing it to seize and then break
[19:59:39] <_unreal_> for example the spacing on the rails one set is 22mm on the inside. so one end is 22.5mm the other is 22.19mm but the carriage is showing up as 23.55mm
[20:00:12] <_unreal_> sync, I need to replace my Y bearings
[20:00:22] <_unreal_> they are starting to CHUNK :)
[20:00:31] <sync> the harmonic balancer is very far away from the timing chain
[20:01:00] <_unreal_> harmonic balancer? on what car or mill?
[20:01:18] <andypugh> _unreal_: Hard to say what is wrong from your description.
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[20:02:02] <_unreal_> andypugh, untill I reboot into windows so I can look at the cad drawing. I think its flex in the machine?
[20:02:16] <_unreal_> BUT
[20:02:24] <andypugh> Seems unlikely, but then we have no idea what the machine is.
[20:02:30] <_unreal_> I went very slow and I dont have 1.5-2mm of play thats for DAMN sure
[20:03:14] <sync> https://media.discordapp.net andypugh
[20:03:16] <_unreal_> and there is NO play in any of the parts. its possible I F'ed something in the cad file.. click one thing catch an other and not notice
[20:04:27] <andypugh> sync: So the seal is round a stub of the balancer? Interesting design.
[20:04:43] <sync> yeah the seal rides on the balancer
[20:05:48] <sync> https://media.discordapp.net
[20:05:58] <sync> ttps://media.discordapp.net
[20:06:15] <sync> https://media.discordapp.net
[20:06:32] <sync> ttps://media.discordapp.net
[20:06:44] <sync> the main is not great, but workable
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[20:12:56] <andypugh> Main looks fine to me.
[20:13:37] <andypugh> But I normally work with vehicles from 1916 not 2016 so may have different standards
[20:16:36] <elmo40> sync, you spin a bearing?
[20:18:09] <sync> yes
[20:18:28] <sync> yeah the main is probably fine
[20:18:40] <sync> I'll just slap another main in there and see what the clearances are
[20:22:14] <elmo40> gotta love german engines...
[20:26:51] <sync> at 320Mm that's ok
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[20:53:45] <CaptHindsight> https://www.ebay.com timing chain sproket sits right up against the end of the balancer
[20:55:02] <CaptHindsight> http://s19539.pcdn.co
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[21:19:09] <_unreal_> time for alcohal
[21:19:12] <elmo40> soo... i can run the printer from the raspi just fine. if i try to run from my win10 workstation it appears to have a data bottleneck every so many lines because it pauses for ~1second every so often. how can that be?
[21:19:15] <_unreal_> little annoyed
[21:19:19] <elmo40> _unreal_, indeed it is!
[21:19:38] <_unreal_> just ONCE I want to get a milled PCB to work
[21:19:40] <elmo40> just had a nice steak dinner. time for beer
[21:19:49] <_unreal_> its one of the ONLY things I can never get to work.
[21:19:56] <elmo40> _unreal_, still using a mill? laser is where it is at ;-)
[21:20:15] <_unreal_> I have a laser and its not working right... neje thing
[21:20:30] <_unreal_> small but deos NOT work with any file but one's on its own internal software server
[21:20:31] <_unreal_> its wierd
[21:20:44] <elmo40> odd
[21:20:58] <elmo40> cant grbl it?
[21:21:04] <_unreal_> if I could ever get 5min of my OWN with out someone needing something I'd take it apart and see if i could reflash it to be a GERBER device
[21:21:09] <_unreal_> nope
[21:21:23] <_unreal_> neje has some custom software BS
[21:21:32] <elmo40> joy
[21:21:51] <_unreal_> basiclly it dumps a BMP file into its internal memory. 536x536 pixels as I recall
[21:22:07] <_unreal_> and reads the dots
[21:22:31] <_unreal_> but when ever I load my own image. it starts great and around half way all of a sudden the image starts drifting WALWAYS
[21:22:33] <_unreal_> ALWAYS
[21:22:37] <_unreal_> always always
[21:22:40] <_unreal_> I dont get it
[21:23:02] <_unreal_> but any of its OWN in house images from the server that the software control accesses always prints perfect
[21:23:13] <_unreal_> soy annoying its collecting dust currently
[21:23:31] <_unreal_> soy=so
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[21:23:56] <_unreal_> and I've been called to the neighbors so many times now its like I cant get away at all.. "old and health issues"
[21:24:11] <_unreal_> and lucky me I use to be a nurse
[21:24:26] <XXCoder> stack overflow?
[21:24:55] <XXCoder> drafting is so strange
[21:25:50] <_unreal_> ?
[21:25:55] <_unreal_> random what are you talking about XXCoder
[21:26:05] <Tom_L> and you?
[21:26:24] <XXCoder> your laser machine
[21:26:46] <_unreal_> drafting is so strange? not sure what your talking about
[21:27:05] <_unreal_> XXCoder, you load a bmp and it just runs on its own
[21:27:14] <XXCoder> all of a sudden the image starts drifting WALWAYS
[21:27:18] <XXCoder> thats what you said?
[21:27:48] <_unreal_> BW 8bit bmp 500 something by 500 pixels and it just starts printing. you can even unplug it from the computer once it starts. it runs on its own.
[21:27:51] <XXCoder> made me wonder if it was picture filesize and stuff causing crap firmware to break
[21:28:08] <_unreal_> does not matter the file size
[21:28:19] <XXCoder> ok guess its not that
[21:28:26] <_unreal_> and its supposed to convert any file into a usable image.
[21:28:39] <_unreal_> does all of the conversions etc..
[21:28:52] <XXCoder> try it resize it to smaller size and convert
[21:28:58] <XXCoder> see if it handles it better
[21:29:13] <_unreal_> I've tried all of that
[21:29:32] <XXCoder> drat. just crap firmware lol any way to update if theres updates of any kind?
[21:29:43] <_unreal_> already did
[21:29:49] <_unreal_> but its an older model
[21:31:35] <XXCoder> wonder if you can remove crap hw and put in your own
[21:31:41] <XXCoder> and control it with lcnc
[21:33:14] <_unreal_> yes
[21:33:24] <_unreal_> there are unpopulated headers as well on the board
[21:33:35] <_unreal_> cant see the board well though I'd need to open the back
[21:33:48] <_unreal_> also cant even see any electronics they are all on the other side of the board
[21:33:48] <XXCoder> cool :)
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[22:37:38] <_unreal_> FINALLY found my win10 install disk. getting this bleeping desktop computer fixed so I can dual boot it with linux
[22:38:02] <XXCoder> yay
[22:39:53] <_unreal_> I HATE having to reboot into win on this laptop
[22:40:02] <_unreal_> so annoying
[22:41:21] <_unreal_> I'm in shock I've gone more then 15min with out someone needing me
[22:45:57] <_unreal_> There win is now installing
[22:46:24] <_unreal_> will be nice to have a win10 system that has a DECENT GPU not the stupid ass intel GPU that is on this laptop
[22:46:39] <_unreal_> time for more alcohol
[22:55:07] <_unreal_> yall got to stop being so quiet, I'm drowning in my own thoughts :)
[22:55:27] <XXCoder> lol well
[22:55:36] <_unreal_> heh
[22:56:02] <_unreal_> sigh I have so much updating I'm going to have to do to this desktop
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