#linuxcnc | Logs for 2019-09-23

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[00:19:18] <elmo40> updating from fresh install? Say it ain't so!
[00:19:19] <elmo40> :-P
[00:19:49] <elmo40> win10, to boot. there are about 3,500 updates since it came out.
[00:20:15] <XXCoder> gold to all updated is going to be fun lol
[00:20:29] <elmo40> and i don't think they call them Service Packs anymore. there have been a few updates that change the revision number so I assume that is a 'SP'
[00:20:36] <XXCoder> thankfully some updates overwrite other so sometimes they do "rollup" so theres fewer uopdates.
[00:20:44] <elmo40> true
[00:20:57] <elmo40> but the rebooting... that is SOOOO annoying.
[00:21:03] <XXCoder> yeah
[00:21:22] <elmo40> honestly. how many kernel patches can there be? what other reason for a reboot? Other than a rootkit checker.
[00:21:32] <XXCoder> linux have had no reboot updates for literally decade. ms have no excuse
[00:21:44] <elmo40> on a side note i think i bricked my raspi3 >_<
[00:22:03] <XXCoder> dead forevermore?
[00:22:27] <elmo40> i was measuring the +5V in the header pins and touched PIN2 and 4 (both are +5V) and LIGHTS OUT!
[00:23:01] <elmo40> the multimeter prode shorted the two contacts.
[00:23:05] <elmo40> *probe
[00:23:22] <elmo40> i don't know why it would kill the board.
[00:23:39] <elmo40> just very strange
[00:23:43] <XXCoder> weird
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[01:27:37] <elmo40> i plug it in and don't see any activity. only the power light comes on.
[01:27:53] <elmo40> maybe i'll check the card and see if it was zapped or something
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[01:36:44] <XXCoder> yeah is there any recover mode or something where you can see error in logs etc
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[02:34:39] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com SLA by myfordboy
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[05:21:08] <Loetmichel> *giggle* ... coworker just had to grind a nice 80 grit finish onto a big sheet of alu with a handheld belt sander... baaad galling... so i took the other side, loads of water/alc/dish detergent and tried again... perfect finish. but my trousers look like i had peed myself now ;)
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[05:47:25] <jym> gmorning
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[05:57:40] <Tom_L> morning
[06:06:32] <jym> Cleaned all the gutters, about killed my back, lol
[06:06:41] <XXCoder> thats always fun
[06:07:21] <jym> Especialy on a nice slippery snow roof
[06:07:50] <XXCoder> lol we had heavy snow this year, but it lasted all of week and half
[06:08:20] <jym> No snow yet, but just a couple drops of water and I had ZERO traction
[06:08:50] <Tom_L> garden hose extension doesn't work?
[06:10:08] <jym> Tom_L: not even close. had leaf blower and a long pole, still jammed with 4" if compacted pine needles
[06:11:16] <Tom_L> put covers over em?
[06:11:56] <Tom_L> http://www.rain-gutter-guide.com
[06:11:58] <XXCoder> theres special covers that "spit" even pine leaves but abuses physics of water to curve it into gutter
[06:12:03] <jym> the pine needles jam the holes, so many others arund here have already tried that
[06:12:26] <Tom_L> my inlaw found some bristle brush thing that works
[06:12:49] <jym> XXCoder: I've seen that, but I thuought those wee actually formed into the gutter itself when fabricated
[06:13:38] <jym> Thats why I was tlaking about removing the end of the gutter and placing a 4" pvc pipe
[06:14:02] <XXCoder> Tom_L: nice summary. didnt think of yellowjackets and etc
[06:14:04] <Tom_L> https://www.leaffilter.com
[06:14:52] <Tom_L> surgical mesh
[06:14:55] <XXCoder> paper wasps is most annoying here
[06:17:14] <jym> I was thinking window screen over the gutters, just not sure how well that would work when it snows
[06:17:30] <XXCoder> I remember theres system to heat roof ends
[06:17:52] <XXCoder> so it cant block gutters with snow. flaw is that if power goes out it might leave water to ice up
[06:18:53] <XXCoder> it heats area to 40f, which indically happen to be just above freezing
[06:21:47] <jym> Oh yeah, almost fucking forgot... sometime today there's suppose to be a 24 to 48 hr black out
[06:22:05] <XXCoder> "yay"
[06:22:13] <jym> exactly
[06:22:39] <XXCoder> charge stuff up
[06:23:31] <jym> I have the generator, but not big enough for the HVAC and stove
[06:25:40] <jym> I have to get a clamp on ampmeter, I think the 110V circuits are not "balanced" across both sides of the 220, keeps popping the circuit breaker on the generator periodically
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[06:26:55] <jym> pinky!!!!
[06:26:56] <XXCoder> yo
[06:27:09] <pink_vampire> hi
[06:27:18] <sync> sounds like you need to get a bigger genset
[06:27:44] <pink_vampire> hi jym!
[06:28:18] <pink_vampire> hi XXCoder
[06:28:26] <pink_vampire> sync: what do you mean?
[06:28:28] <XXCoder> how goes stuff
[06:28:39] <jym> sync: I don't think that's it, I think it's just not balanced
[06:30:33] <pink_vampire> what is the smallest GT2 Pulley?
[06:30:47] <pink_vampire> 16 teeth?
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[07:24:48] <XXCoder> i hate being sick and weak
[07:24:54] <XXCoder> just showering took a lot out of em
[07:24:55] <XXCoder> me
[07:38:46] <pink_vampire|2> XXCoder: poor you
[07:39:11] <pink_vampire|2> someone know about lefty microwave?
[07:39:24] <XXCoder> huh? lefty microwave?
[07:39:31] <pink_vampire|2> yes
[07:39:50] <pink_vampire|2> I need one that open from left to right
[07:40:05] <XXCoder> check this out pink https://www.youtube.com
[07:40:10] <XXCoder> ahh door
[07:40:44] <XXCoder> lemme see if any left hand microwave exists. for counter or mount on top?
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[07:41:54] <pink_vampire|2> XXCoder: I saw that video
[07:42:02] <XXCoder> cool :)
[07:42:11] <jthornton> turn it upside down
[07:43:34] <XXCoder> might have found some for you pink https://roccommunitysummit.org
[07:43:57] <XXCoder> and some is handle top down so it works either way
[07:44:46] <XXCoder> hm didnt find left hand
[07:45:00] <XXCoder> its just upside down, though it might have rotatary stuff on both sides
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[07:48:50] <XXCoder> ohh something I can do once I evenually am able to setup my machine again https://www.youtube.com
[07:57:58] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: just buy one at walmart
[07:58:09] <XXCoder> lol
[07:58:30] <pink_vampire> I did the Z axis
[07:58:41] <pink_vampire> now I'm working on the X and Y
[07:58:55] <XXCoder> building already? or modeling?
[07:59:07] <pink_vampire> an I'm not sure how I want to drive it
[07:59:19] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: still in modeling phase
[07:59:28] <XXCoder> what materials plan to cut?
[07:59:44] <pink_vampire> soft sheet material
[07:59:55] <XXCoder> double belt maybe
[08:00:09] <pink_vampire> cutting area of 2' X 4'
[08:00:17] <pink_vampire> you mean H bot?
[08:00:46] <XXCoder> a second
[08:00:57] <XXCoder> https://i.pinimg.com
[08:01:03] <XXCoder> notice that it has 2 belts
[08:01:25] <pink_vampire> why 2?
[08:01:26] <XXCoder> it helps lock movement used belt from moving around with sideforce
[08:02:10] <XXCoder> with cheap non-timing belt that'd be plenty strong enough
[08:02:28] <pink_vampire> so it is like regular "omega" belt drive, just with one more belt on the bottom?
[08:02:53] <XXCoder> essentally.
[08:03:13] <pink_vampire> what is "non-timing belt"?
[08:03:29] <XXCoder> well theres belts thats only used for timing, 3d printers use those a lot
[08:03:41] <XXCoder> but for milling you need a little bit stronger belt than that
[08:04:10] <pink_vampire> the MPCNC use 6mm gt2 belts
[08:04:17] <jthornton> that drive is much more accurate as it eliminates the stretch of the belt and much faster than screw drive
[08:04:42] <pink_vampire> this is the h-bot https://youtu.be
[08:05:13] <XXCoder> that looks bigger than cheap belts
[08:05:42] <pink_vampire> the omega style was my first idea, now, I'm thinking about the H-bot
[08:07:05] <jthornton> what is an omega style?
[08:07:40] <XXCoder> jt essentally one i linked a picture, but no bottom beklt
[08:08:42] <pink_vampire> jthornton: https://cdn.shopify.com
[08:08:55] <pink_vampire> this is what I call "omega"
[08:09:06] <XXCoder> that is definitely tiny cheapass belt
[08:09:07] <jthornton> http://gnipsel.com
[08:09:12] <jthornton> like that?
[08:09:25] <pink_vampire> I think so
[08:09:47] <jthornton> that's my plasma cutter I built from my brain
[08:10:07] <pink_vampire> in my design I'm trying to cheap and 3d printed parts
[08:11:04] <XXCoder> its worth belt to bump up a little on belts
[08:11:08] <XXCoder> money*
[08:11:17] <XXCoder> and make it double belt.
[08:11:34] <pink_vampire> the bottom long rails will be H profile, or 20mm round but supported,
[08:11:41] <XXCoder> expecially since theres almost no difference on gearing system for that. maybe tricky aligning both belts
[08:11:42] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: you right
[08:11:42] <jthornton> yea don't undersize the belts, I ended up putting bigger ones on my plasma
[08:13:02] <pink_vampire> on the bridge, I'm using 2 16mm round shafts, and for the Z, I'm using 12mm shafts,
[08:16:37] <pink_vampire> what do you think about the H-bot vs independent belt for each axis?
[08:16:47] <XXCoder> dont know
[08:17:55] <pink_vampire> I don't know why, but all the very expensive printers, and the pick and place machines use H-bot
[08:21:16] <XXCoder> i dont know that design so dunno if good
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[08:23:35] <XXCoder> off to bed for work. laters
[08:24:54] <pink_vampire> good night
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[09:09:03] <pink_vampire> https://imgur.com
[09:09:43] <pink_vampire> Soldering iron restoration, that I did
[09:12:41] <miss0r2> so begind the process of smudging the table of my mill with cast iron powder...
[09:13:30] <pink_vampire> cast iron powder ewww
[09:13:51] <miss0r2> pink_vampire: nice looking iron you made there ;)
[09:14:15] <pink_vampire> I love it!
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[09:51:40] <Loetmichel> sooo, finally all the handles für the needle files done... aaaand of course i ran out of green PLA... lets see how long it'll take for those two sets to "evaporate" here in the company... :-) -> http://www.cyrom.org
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[09:52:29] <miss0r2> its odd with nice equipment.. it has a tendency to evaporate...
[09:52:46] <Loetmichel> indeed
[09:53:56] * miss0r2 is cursing myself for having a slitting saw collection that jumps from 80 to 145mm
[09:54:02] <miss0r2> What I need right now is a 100!
[09:54:41] <miss0r2> I should go somewhere and make it evaporate... :)
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[11:17:48] <JT-Shop> wonderful paypal is sending me an unsolicited master card so I can get my money faster...
[11:19:09] <gregcnc> that's odd
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[11:20:19] <t4nk-freenode> are you sure it's not a Somali prince that sent you a mail?
[11:25:35] <JT-Shop> yea got a snail mail announcement
[11:25:50] <JT-Shop> not an email
[11:40:09] <JT-Shop> yea my anodized parts just showed up and they didn't lose any this time
[11:40:24] <CaptHindsight> JT-Shop: it comes in handy, the card
[11:41:17] <CaptHindsight> but it costs you an extra $1 or 2 to pull cash from a machine
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[11:49:12] <jthornton> I would never use it, I transfer from paypal to a bank account
[11:52:59] <CaptHindsight> 1% back when used as a debit
[11:53:00] <jthornton> and I never use a cash machine, I use a shovel...
[12:04:31] <t4nk-freenode> I use a shovel on people whilst they're using an atm machine
[12:06:28] <gregcnc> how often?
[12:07:35] <t4nk-freenode> there's one across the street, sometimes 20-30 times a night!
[12:07:37] <t4nk-freenode> ;)
[12:08:18] <t4nk-freenode> I wait for the 'beep beep beep beep Boop' and then I rush out
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[12:36:22] <pink_vampire> hi
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[12:54:00] <gregcnc> vise carnage https://youtu.be
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[13:24:43] <SpeedEvil> No hydraulic press though.
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[13:27:58] <pink_vampire> what do you think is better for cnc router, H-bot or Cartesian ?
[13:28:20] <SpeedEvil> Escher.
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[13:29:02] <pink_vampire> O_o
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[13:53:22] <CaptHindsight> non Euclidean geometry
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[13:58:04] <CaptHindsight> if a robot paints a painting, is it art?
[13:58:52] <jym> sure
[13:59:36] <jym> No robot shaming
[14:01:23] <jym> CaptHindsight: Love Death Robots... https://en.wikipedia.org
[14:02:49] <CaptHindsight> worth watching?
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[14:24:35] <pink_vampire> it took me alot of time to find how to do it, so if someone use firefox and want to change the location of the notifications this is how you do it: about:config > right click > new > integer > ui.alertNotificationOrigin > 0 - Bottom right, 2 - Bottom left , 4 - Top right , 6 - Top left
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[15:59:44] <miss0r2> 40 minuts straight on a manual surface grinder... That is the workout of the day
[16:13:11] <pink_vampire> sounds like fun
[16:16:34] <miss0r2> it is *alot* of work on a truly manual machine.
[16:16:39] <miss0r2> No hydraulic traverse...
[16:32:40] * jthornton knows what miss0r2 means... even a belt drive on the table is great
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[16:50:21] <pink_vampire> if you have a small house, you can fit it in the lathe https://www.machinetools.com
[16:50:47] <gregcnc> what are you making?
[16:51:11] <pink_vampire> I'm trying to build a cheap cnc router
[16:51:35] <gregcnc> you probably don't need a lathe that large
[16:52:01] <gregcnc> did you get more space or will the router mount to the ceiling?
[16:53:36] <gregcnc> is Berta running again?
[16:53:39] <pink_vampire> gregcnc: almost
[16:54:10] <pink_vampire> I need something about 2' x4'
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[16:54:26] <gregcnc> bigger than the last one?
[16:54:35] <MacGalempsy> hello
[16:54:40] <gregcnc> heyo
[16:54:58] <MacGalempsy> hablas espanol tambien?
[16:55:15] <gregcnc> do you have any photos of the 4th that came with your xt?
[16:55:15] <MacGalempsy> makin chips today greg?
[16:55:22] <MacGalempsy> I should
[16:55:24] <gregcnc> might still
[16:56:00] <gregcnc> sold my emco mill, getting another emco tmr
[16:57:47] <MacGalempsy> https://flic.kr
[16:58:02] <MacGalempsy> the brand is SMT
[16:58:35] <gregcnc> not SMW?
[16:59:15] <MacGalempsy> oh, maybe that is it
[16:59:39] <MacGalempsy> I know the company sold out at one point, and it was kind of a PITA to pin it out
[17:00:27] <MacGalempsy> the whole machine is still sitting in my mother-in-laws garage
[17:00:32] <pink_vampire> MacGalempsy: is that the oiling system? https://www.flickr.com
[17:01:03] <gregcnc> I was brainstorming for 4th to fit the new mill
[17:01:06] <MacGalempsy> those valves are for the ATC
[17:02:06] <MacGalempsy> carriage left/right, carriage up/down, tool holder up/down, collet open/close
[17:02:08] <pink_vampire> it's all pneumatic?
[17:02:25] <MacGalempsy> the oil is a 220v pump in the sump
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[17:02:42] <MacGalempsy> yes everything else is pneumatic
[17:03:23] <MacGalempsy> that relay to the right is the power to the VFD and other stuff
[17:04:25] <gregcnc> I think this is the same, but pneumatic drawbar
[17:04:26] <gregcnc> www.ebay.com/itm/113758862074?
[17:04:44] <MacGalempsy> yeah
[17:04:50] <gregcnc> well it looks slightly bulkier
[17:05:01] <MacGalempsy> you want to buy mine for that price?
[17:05:11] <MacGalempsy> you get the shipping
[17:05:32] <gregcnc> I'll let you know when the machine is running
[17:05:50] <MacGalempsy> sounds good
[17:06:23] <MacGalempsy> I need to have a major garage sale, but I know if the garage is empty, then the wifey will want to put her truck in there
[17:07:05] <pink_vampire> MacGalempsy: I don't have a wife.
[17:07:23] <MacGalempsy> why not?
[17:08:22] <pink_vampire> 2 women in the same house?
[17:09:25] <MacGalempsy> happens all the time, but I understand how there can only be one queen bee
[17:11:45] <pink_vampire> house without a cnc machine is not a house for me.
[17:13:11] <MacGalempsy> picked up a few delta printers a while back. just need to get the computer side figured out. they are rostock maxs'
[17:14:25] <pink_vampire> we all have those projects
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[17:16:20] <MacGalempsy> the cool part is that there are two of them, just one has not been built yet :D
[17:19:16] <pink_vampire> I will be happy to get one and save you some space and time :)
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[17:43:51] <Deejay> gn8
[17:44:00] <jthornton> night
[17:44:18] <MacGalempsy> well, these latin lessons have been interesting, the latin channel has not banned me yet :)
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[17:46:13] <miss0r2> gah... Finally shaved this cast iron down to size... aftermath: https://imgur.com Soda can for size :)
[17:47:04] <jthornton> are you going to glue them back together?
[17:49:33] <miss0r2> hehe
[17:49:36] <jthornton> low tonight 55F
[17:49:55] <miss0r2> nah.. I got this cast iron for free.. Beggers can't be choosers.. I had to take a bit off the top to make it fit my needs
[17:50:23] <miss0r2> around here its more like low 40s
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[17:53:41] <SpeedEvil> https://www.ebay.co.uk 'usual wear and tear'
[17:56:58] <JT-Shop> is that like 100+ years old?
[17:57:22] <JT-Shop> my WW2 cast surface place looks like a jewel compared to that one lol
[17:58:24] <SpeedEvil> I hope some of the marks on it are footprints
[17:59:23] <SpeedEvil> If I was local, I might buy it at that price - but as a 'precision' woodworking machine base.
[17:59:44] <SpeedEvil> Belt sand the top, polish it reasonably, coat of wax, and just punch random holes in it with no guilt.
[18:12:32] <pink_vampire> miss0r2: those are some chips
[18:12:55] <miss0r2> pink_vampire: yeah. I must've shaved 5-7kgs off that cast iron workpeice
[18:13:06] <miss0r2> and that was just squaring it up and bringing it to size...
[18:13:11] <pink_vampire> SpeedEvil: LOLLL
[18:13:27] <pink_vampire> miss0r2: what are you making?
[18:13:40] <miss0r2> pink_vampire: A shaper head for my mill
[18:14:22] <miss0r2> since I failed at finding a 7-8" shaper I could fit in here, I had to get "creative"
[18:15:33] <miss0r2> damn its late. I have to get some sleep. See you around
[18:15:37] <pink_vampire> shaper head??
[18:15:47] <miss0r2> linear motion machining
[18:15:50] <pink_vampire> pics or didn't happen
[18:16:04] <miss0r2> you know what a shaper is, right?
[18:16:29] <miss0r2> (at this point, the only photo I can show you of the project is a squared up peice of cast iron - not realy exiting)
[18:16:59] <pink_vampire> I know what is a shaper, but you made me super curious about the stuff that you make,
[18:17:26] <miss0r2> I will make some photos once theres actualy anything to look at, promise :)
[18:17:35] <miss0r2> Now I will have to get some sleep - see you around
[18:17:46] <pink_vampire> cool
[18:17:52] <pink_vampire> have a good night
[18:18:39] <pink_vampire> sounds like after all that machining you really deserve it
[18:20:59] <_unreal_> so much nicer. getting my desktop setup now
[18:21:05] <_unreal_> all my cad software etc.....
[18:21:20] <_unreal_> will be nice to have my mini tower setup as the windows cad system
[18:21:25] <_unreal_> going to put linux on it as well
[18:21:35] <_unreal_> dual boot
[18:21:59] <pink_vampire> cad software that can't export to a parametric file........
[18:22:08] <_unreal_> ;p
[18:22:26] <_unreal_> I've had no issues exporting to cam
[18:22:48] <_unreal_> OMG sooo much software to setup on this tower
[18:22:59] <_unreal_> and saddly its max out on memory if I am not worng.... 4gigs
[18:23:04] <_unreal_> core 2 quad
[18:23:05] <pink_vampire> what software?
[18:23:09] <_unreal_> everything
[18:23:14] <_unreal_> fresh install of win10 right now
[18:23:19] <pink_vampire> mine is also core 2 quad
[18:23:27] <_unreal_> I'm going to follow it up with a realtime install of ubuntu and put linuxcnc on as a dual boot
[18:23:38] <pink_vampire> what cpu are you using?
[18:23:48] <_unreal_> core 2 quad
[18:24:02] <_unreal_> aside from the computer i was just given its the most power computer I own
[18:24:06] <pink_vampire> yeah.. but what.. Q...
[18:24:11] <_unreal_> but the one I was given I'm going to use that at work
[18:24:18] <_unreal_> its a core 2 quad
[18:24:40] <_unreal_> 2.4ghz I think? I'd have to look it up but its CHUGGING right now doing win10 updates and isntalling auto cad
[18:24:51] <_unreal_> I have not even gotten antivirus installed yet
[18:25:11] <pink_vampire> core 2 quad is the series, what model?
[18:25:20] <_unreal_> q6600
[18:25:33] <_unreal_> I dont know the MB off the top of my head asus I think?
[18:25:46] <pink_vampire> I'm also have Q6600 as my cnc controlle
[18:25:56] <pink_vampire> my desktop is Q9650
[18:25:57] <_unreal_> PLenty of CPU
[18:26:39] <_unreal_> I was given an envy23
[18:26:39] <pink_vampire> I need new graphic card for the cnc controller.
[18:26:55] <_unreal_> I5 2.8GHZ 8ghg ram but the touch screen was totaly shattered. lcd is fine
[18:27:04] <_unreal_> I told them to find me a new one and I'll pay for it.
[18:27:07] * jym hands pink_vampire a Trident 8900 ISA video card =)
[18:27:17] <pink_vampire> no no
[18:27:24] <_unreal_> I use to love my trident video card back in the day
[18:27:30] <_unreal_> then 3D came out and I hated it
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[18:27:44] <pink_vampire> I had nvidia 9400GT that die.
[18:28:13] <pink_vampire> I'm thinking about some gtx
[18:28:16] <_unreal_> I remember buying one and getting a 1mb upgrade to two megs. only to find out I could have purchased an S3 with 4mb and had half decent OPENGL and played quake with opengl I wqas SOOOO pissed
[18:28:27] <_unreal_> hehe I'm talking 90's
[18:28:41] <_unreal_> intel pentium 200mmx
[18:28:53] <_unreal_> voodoo2's :)
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[18:29:35] <pink_vampire> awwwwwwwwwwwww quake
[18:30:14] <jdh> I think that was the last game I played
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[18:31:23] <_unreal_> heh
[18:31:37] <_unreal_> I have an eznet200 setup to play quake :)
[18:31:44] <_unreal_> geode200mhz cpu
[18:31:47] <_unreal_> 32mb ram :)
[18:31:50] <_unreal_> its ok
[18:31:53] <_unreal_> 320res
[18:32:24] <_unreal_> and it has a "cyrix" cpu that does not have the CYRIX issue the geode media gx1 cpu
[18:32:39] <_unreal_> OMG finish installing
[18:32:53] <_unreal_> freaking win10 updates. and software installing this desktop is going nuts
[18:32:54] <_unreal_> sigh
[18:46:46] <_unreal_> pink_vampire, I take it you played quake?
[18:53:30] <pink_vampire> yes
[18:54:29] <pink_vampire> on a pentium 200mmx
[18:56:16] <_unreal_> the good old days
[18:56:34] <_unreal_> I have a pentium 200 laptop :)
[18:56:36] <_unreal_> ibm latop
[18:56:46] <pink_vampire> AWWW that it cute
[18:58:01] <_unreal_> pink you would love the eznet 200 then
[18:58:47] <_unreal_> pink_vampire, https://img.pcstore.com.tw
[18:59:42] <_unreal_> the chines adjusted the software to make them a "fax" system but they are a 200mhz x86 system
[18:59:44] <_unreal_> https://ct.yimg.com
[19:00:22] <_unreal_> they are an ms emachine
[19:00:49] <_unreal_> "originally" used as an early internet applience computer like the IOPENER
[19:08:13] <_unreal_> ok so I now have most of the software I need setup on this desktop
[19:08:29] <_unreal_> amazing its been sitting for months more or less years idle
[19:08:43] <_unreal_> soon as libre office installs I'm going for that shower
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[19:17:26] <Lcvette> https://youtu.be
[19:17:49] <Lcvette> just a little video of the new probe basic interface and probing overview!
[19:18:09] <Lcvette> sorry for the background noise and shakiness
[19:20:45] <_unreal_> Lcvette, you get your issue figured out?
[19:21:12] <Lcvette> Yup, on to other bugs now
[19:21:42] <_unreal_> what was the bug?
[19:21:45] <_unreal_> err issue
[19:22:47] <Lcvette> Which one?
[19:22:58] <_unreal_> the axis I believe? issue with the pendent?
[19:23:53] <Tom_L> he didn't have enough lines in the config
[19:25:01] <_unreal_> ?
[19:25:21] <Lcvette> Yeah needed to add some lines in the Hal file
[19:25:27] <Tom_L> couple enable lines etc
[19:25:43] <_unreal_> hum
[19:25:45] <_unreal_> ok
[19:25:50] <_unreal_> not really sure but OK :)
[19:26:01] <_unreal_> ok time for a shower. now this desktop is in windows update mode
[19:26:02] <Tom_L> do you use linuxcnc?
[19:26:13] <_unreal_> I do but I dont have anything currently setup working
[19:26:35] <Tom_L> it was due to a change they made with joint vs axis
[19:26:44] <_unreal_> and my little PC I wanted to use. has now been shelfed because I couldnt get enough help to try to get the code figured out to make the GPIO lines work
[19:27:05] <Tom_L> oh the arm controller?
[19:27:09] <_unreal_> other wise I would have to use a mesa driver
[19:27:12] <_unreal_> ya
[19:27:25] <Tom_L> somewhat uncharted territory
[19:27:28] <_unreal_> ya
[19:27:41] <_unreal_> and now I have been given this 23" touch screen i5
[19:27:48] <_unreal_> out of the blue
[19:27:57] <_unreal_> so hehehe WHAT else could i want
[19:28:04] <_unreal_> for a cnc controlller
[19:28:25] <Tom_L> couple mesa cards
[19:28:36] <_unreal_> the downfall is that I have two choices. mach3 usb controller OR a mesa card
[19:28:55] <Tom_L> mesa is superior
[19:29:05] <_unreal_> I have a mach3 card so I'm sadly likely going to go the windows rout for work
[19:29:10] <_unreal_> I'm sure
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[19:29:13] <jthornton> marc yuck
[19:32:21] <Lcvette> unreal: wtf
[19:32:40] <Lcvette> Thought you were a linuxcnc guy?
[19:33:20] <_unreal_> I am
[19:33:34] <_unreal_> I'm going to dual boot that computer for linuxcnc and win
[19:33:42] <jthornton> send the mark tree usb crap to someone you don't like
[19:33:45] <_unreal_> i DO have to do the cad work
[19:34:02] <_unreal_> and they use autocad
[19:34:48] <_unreal_> ok time for a shower
[19:35:19] <_unreal_> after my shower I'm going to see about trying to get this stupid pcb built
[19:35:31] <_unreal_> I would SOOOOOO rather mill the bastard if i can get it figured out
[19:47:02] <sync> hmm andypugh the crank snout is 3/100 smaller on the frist half than the rest of the surface
[19:47:16] <sync> I'm tempted to just get it polished or do it myself and slap it back together
[19:47:26] <andypugh> Do you think it is meant to be?
[19:47:58] <sync> no
[19:48:35] <sync> I'm really suprised how good the engine looks on the inside
[19:49:00] <sync> and how good the bearings look
[19:49:48] <sync> when I repaired a friends 2.5l I6 petrol clunker the bearings were shot after 150Mm
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[20:09:21] <_unreal_> OK... all showered
[20:10:18] <_unreal_> and rebooting most of my updates are DONE finally
[20:10:28] <_unreal_> just doing an UPDATE and reboot now SIGH
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[20:19:06] <_unreal_> OMG ist still updating
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[20:28:42] <jesseg> Which of these fonts looks better? https://i.imgur.com
[20:29:00] <jesseg> One uses all straight lines and the other uses some arcs where plausible, etc.
[20:29:59] <Tom_L> the M sucks on both of em :)
[20:30:08] <Tom_L> one is too short the other too long
[20:30:35] <Tom_L> i suppose better depends on what the end use is
[20:32:53] <jesseg> Think M shuold kind of go half way instead of all the way?
[20:33:35] <Tom_L> i would
[20:33:48] <jesseg> yeah half way down looks better then either of what I had
[20:34:45] <jesseg> It's just a simple built-in obviously scalable font for my cad program - to show on screen and send to CNC
[20:57:51] <ziper> jesseg, top
[20:58:26] <ziper> with some exceptions
[21:03:53] <jesseg> ziper, I fixed M so the bottom of the V is half way down exactly
[21:04:19] <ziper> i don't like the v or the w. what about halfway between the two
[21:04:23] <ziper> oh good
[21:04:30] <ziper> the w too?
[21:04:51] <jesseg> ahh, I didn't change W yet but I think maybe it needs it
[21:06:38] <jesseg> ok any other suggestions, then I'll post a new screen shot :D
[21:07:18] <jesseg> In general, while I like the look of most of the rounded letters, some are hard to get right.
[21:07:34] <jesseg> And drawing arcs probably takes more cpu than lines
[21:11:58] <jesseg> How's this: https://i.imgur.com
[21:16:34] <jesseg> Basically the non-curvy letters all have their endpoints on a 5x7 grid lol
[21:17:44] <Tom_L> M looks alot better
[21:17:58] <jesseg> I agree
[21:18:42] <Tom_L> even on the rounded set i'd bring the center W down a little
[21:19:28] <jesseg> yeah let me try that
[21:19:50] <Tom_L> something else to contemplate, make the C just like the O except the right side
[21:21:10] <jesseg> On the curved set?
[21:21:27] <Tom_L> yeah
[21:22:17] <Tom_L> see what you think
[21:24:35] <jesseg> OK here's the C both ways and some W's to choose from
[21:24:36] <jesseg> https://i.imgur.com
[21:25:29] <Tom_L> what do you think?
[21:25:43] <Tom_L> i'd back the arcs on the C off just a little bit
[21:25:53] <Tom_L> maybe at the 45 deg instead of the 180
[21:26:08] <Tom_L> ie open it up a tad bit
[21:26:17] <Tom_L> the first row W looks good
[21:26:25] <Tom_L> first single row
[21:26:45] <Tom_L> in the end, it's your call
[21:27:09] <Tom_L> i'd do the D the same as the C but bring the top straight back at the top of the arc
[21:27:12] <jesseg> yeah but I really appreciate the feedback because I've been staring at it too long :P
[21:27:45] <Tom_L> just to see what a D like that would look like
[21:28:32] <jesseg> regarding the W's with 1 at the top of the stack, which one looked the best?
[21:28:51] <Tom_L> 3
[21:29:16] <jesseg> I agree
[21:29:23] <jesseg> I put it for both fonts
[21:29:41] <jesseg> which V was best?
[21:29:57] <Tom_L> i would push the C back the same as the top of the G
[21:30:04] <Tom_L> on the arcs that is
[21:30:22] <Tom_L> and keep the straight left side
[21:30:37] <jesseg> Oh, gotcha
[21:30:40] <Tom_L> and
[21:30:51] <Tom_L> put the straight back on the G like the C :)
[21:31:02] <Tom_L> then it's more uniform
[21:31:51] <Tom_L> so the C D & G and it looks good
[21:31:56] <Tom_L> bottom V i think
[21:32:09] <Tom_L> top one looks like a cutter :)
[21:38:09] <jesseg> *talkative friend called on the phone*.....
[21:49:40] <jesseg> wheeeee
[21:49:44] <jesseg> off the phone
[21:49:50] <jesseg> where was it :P
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[22:37:00] <jesseg> Tom_L, there, I think I got it done - the middle row: https://i.imgur.com
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[22:45:34] <_unreal_> wholy crap
[22:45:35] <_unreal_> https://www.youtube.com
[22:45:41] <_unreal_> skip to 13min in the video
[22:45:51] <_unreal_> I thought it was an optical illusion at first
[22:46:59] <Tom_L> jesseg, i like that D alot better
[22:47:08] <Tom_L> and the G i think
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[22:47:52] <Tom_L> jesseg, i like that middle row now
[22:48:33] <jesseg> yeah that's my best row
[22:48:35] <Tom_L> actually they all look pretty decent
[22:49:00] <Tom_L> that helped the D i think
[22:49:21] <Tom_L> and C
[22:49:33] <jesseg> yeah, in print, D is more like the bottom line. But maybe squaring them up a little fits with the CNC theme better :D
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[22:50:51] <jesseg> I suppose I could also just find an open source truetype font lol
[22:51:07] <jesseg> but those are probably much heavier on the CPU to render
[22:51:13] <Tom_L> my cad has a few fonts
[22:51:19] <jesseg> with those cubic splines and such
[22:51:36] <jesseg> My cad doesn't have any scalable font yet, but that's why I'm working on it
[22:51:41] <Tom_L> i don't use them much so i'm not really sure what there is
[22:51:53] <Tom_L> mine are scalable
[22:52:02] <Tom_L> and i can wrap them
[22:52:06] <jesseg> cool
[22:52:33] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[22:52:40] <Tom_L> like the top switches
[22:52:55] <jesseg> super cool
[22:53:28] <Tom_L> i was playing with the cutter depth there too. i should make another face
[22:55:50] <jesseg> thanks so much for helping me tune in my fonts!
[22:56:08] <Tom_L> heh, np
[22:56:18] <jesseg> now I need to figure out how I wish to store and retrieve them
[22:56:48] <jesseg> and maybe make some punctuation :P
[22:59:17] <Tom_L> i count 43 sets in the font directory
[23:00:41] <jesseg> wow, that's some options
[23:00:58] <Tom_L> some are outlines
[23:01:07] <Tom_L> some are just linear
[23:01:17] <jesseg> interesting
[23:02:20] <Tom_L> one is quite similar to your bottom one
[23:02:32] <Tom_L> upper and lower case
[23:02:54] <jesseg> yeah, I should probably do lower case too.
[23:03:08] <jesseg> but for now I'm just tired of having no text whatsoever
[23:03:15] <jesseg> so I'll just map it to UC
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[23:11:06] <Tom_L> jesseg, here's one of them: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[23:11:28] <Tom_L> heh they take the W to the top
[23:11:37] <Tom_L> and the M
[23:13:01] <jesseg> yeah evidently they just sort of did what I did but at least they finished :D
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[23:33:01] <Lcvette> Tom_L: you on?