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[02:40:51] <Deejay> moin
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[03:18:43] <miss0r> morning
[03:20:34] <CaptHindsight> top o the mournin to yah
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[03:22:01] <CaptHindsight> https://www.facebook.com from clever to dangerous
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[03:34:37] <miss0r> spare me the scrolling of looking at it all; where did it turn dangerous?
[03:37:06] <CaptHindsight> oh i posted the pictures link by mistake
[03:37:29] <miss0r> meh :] some good ideas in there though
[03:37:37] <CaptHindsight> sure
[03:38:04] <CaptHindsight> looks like it will also match some suppliers with high capacity to those in need
[03:38:19] <miss0r> I'm waiting around for my paint and gasmask at the moment
[03:38:20] <miss0r> indeed
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[06:00:46] <jthornton> morning
[06:01:03] <XXCoder> hey jt
[06:01:10] <XXCoder> did some deburr today :yay"
[06:01:23] <XXCoder> also, wtf https://kotaku.com "essental"
[06:02:45] <jthornton> lol
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[06:04:49] <jthornton> I finally broke the barrier to 179.2 this morning
[06:05:22] <jthornton> it's funny to watch a spider in the IR light
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[06:07:14] <XXCoder> isnt it usually super glowy? or is that scorption
[06:07:32] <jthornton> yea glowing white
[06:14:17] <jthornton> wake up time for the chickens
[06:16:03] <XXCoder> nice
[06:16:10] <XXCoder> feed them glowy spiders
[06:16:23] <jthornton> lol
[06:17:39] <jthornton> man I'm tired of all this rain, can't fix my levee until it dries up enough to drive the backhoe
[06:17:59] <jthornton> http://www.qtpyvcp.com
[06:18:14] <XXCoder> hey
[06:18:18] <XXCoder> you stole the rain!
[06:18:29] <jthornton> you can have it back lol
[06:18:34] <XXCoder> it havent rained here for few weeks now. completely abnormal
[06:18:50] <XXCoder> soon, calfornians with bad driving will be able to stay year around
[06:19:36] <XXCoder> the screen for showing machine movements etc right?
[06:19:39] <XXCoder> looks cool
[06:20:42] <jthornton> yea, uses VTK which is way faster than gremlin which uses hmm I forget
[06:22:37] <XXCoder> nice
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[07:35:08] <Loetmichel> *MUHAHA* I just lifted an OSB shipping crate with a 40" TV inside for delivery weight "measurement". $me:"ah, maybe 20kg(44lb)"... Coworker: "lets get the scale to verify that..." So i lifted it onto the scale... Scale shows 53kg (117lb) OOOOps... Coworker: "yeah, thats what i expected, i couldnt lift even one side of the box. 20kg my ass!" :-)
[08:09:21] <Tom_L> morning
[08:10:23] <Tom_L> 32°F and windy
[08:10:42] <Tom_L> cases up to 36 here
[08:13:48] _methods is now known as methods_
[08:27:09] <jthornton> we have 39
[08:28:07] <jthornton> but I have conflicting reports one says 28
[08:38:55] <andypugh> Who was the guy in Florida? Beachbum Pete?
[08:39:12] <andypugh> Just saw this on the forum: https://forum.linuxcnc.org
[08:41:46] <jymmmm> Good morning
[08:42:08] <net|> in italy they had 430 deaths in 24 hours
[08:43:06] <jymmmm> jthornton: drive the backhoe to backplot, I thought you CNC'ed your tractor =)
[08:44:24] <jymmmm> net|: WOW, ALL corona related?
[08:45:26] <net|> yeah pretty intense... it makes me feel like what im going through is only the flu or sars...
[08:45:53] <net|> most noticed part is my ribs hurt not even from cough
[08:46:15] <jymmmm> wrap them in an ace bandage???
[08:46:27] <net|> feels like it could be that in a week or 3
[08:47:02] <net|> the main problem is its modifying rna which modify's dna later
[08:47:05] <net|> a disease
[08:47:41] <net|> might be hidden cancer or new lungs from the aliens
[08:48:38] <net|> https://netpipe.ca << i made this a couple days ago so i could be rich if i dont die
[08:50:52] <net|> https://www.youtube.com 475 in 24 hours
[08:53:03] <net|> the same day they reported 4000 new cases
[08:53:10] <net|> in 24 hours
[09:18:54] <p0g0_> eh, RNA doesn't generally do anything to DNA, no editing, no epigentics. What you can get is a permanent infection, like herpes or chicken pox (that shows up later as shingles). I haven't heard of any evidence that the virus doesn't clear completely once the immune system gets on it, but it is a bit early to say much about that.
[09:42:22] <net|> rna is what transcodes dna
[09:43:01] <net|> its what takes dna apart and make copies i think
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[09:54:04] <Loetmichel> Hihi, coworker just came by: "gimme your home adress please so boss can write permits for all of us in case hessia follows bavaria with the corona curfew!" :-)
[10:14:56] <jymmmm> Loetmichel: HUH?
[10:15:03] <jymmmm> in case of what?
[10:15:48] <jymmmm> https://nypost.com
[10:16:37] <jymmmm> As I understand it, it delivers zinc that blocks/reduces corona. Could do the same with a OTC suppliment too
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[10:34:54] * JT-Shop has a 1 1/8" shackle and a 1" shackle... no clue what I'll ever do with them
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[10:39:38] <jymmmm> padlock?
[11:03:07] <Loetmichel> Jymmm: the bavaria state of germany has a curfew in effect to thwart the corona virus. if the police gets you outside without a "pressing reason" (like buying essential goods for living) or having a letter from your boss that he needs you at the company they can fine you 3000eur. and fear is that the other states of germany will follow that lead
[11:03:20] <Loetmichel> so boss provided us with said letters
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[12:02:41] <CaptHindsight> jymmmm: https://youtu.be how ACE2 works with Zinc and SARS-COV-2
[12:08:24] <lecki85> Hello, does anyone know the max.voltage limits for the mesa 7i77 encoder inputs?
[12:11:41] <pcw_home> They are standard RS-422 receivers so expect 5V signals
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[12:32:56] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: oh cool
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[12:35:31] <lecki85> thank you
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[13:27:41] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: There was no mention of zinc in the link you provided,
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[13:34:35] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: https://youtu.be
[13:35:38] <CaptHindsight> Zinc and Hydrochloroquin
[13:37:22] <CaptHindsight> 3:35 Zinc
[13:43:54] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Yeah, that's the one I originally linked above =)
[13:44:29] <Jymmm> #34, then you linked me #37 =)
[13:44:50] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Stop trying to confuse me =)
[13:45:02] <CaptHindsight> sorry
[13:45:45] <gregcnc> just announced shelter in place in IL starting tomorrow
[13:45:45] <CaptHindsight> 37 covers where 34 left off
[13:46:01] <CaptHindsight> yeah was just heading to the store
[13:46:23] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: no worries, Now I'm trying to figure out if Quercetin Dihydrate (zinc) can penitrate cell wall
[13:46:42] <Jymmm> https://www.amazon.com
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[13:48:07] <Jymmm> The shelves are kinda bare at the grocery stores here., and the line at costco is going around the building
[13:56:40] <andypugh> I have enough food to see me through to Sunday.
[13:56:43] <andypugh> Hmmm
[14:04:20] <SpeedEvil> I have enough to see me through till about January.
[14:04:34] <SpeedEvil> Last few months will be very boring though.
[14:05:02] <SpeedEvil> (90% bought in 2019 or before)
[14:14:27] <andypugh> I am wondering how long it will be before folk decide that the ones likely to die of CoVID are expendable after all?
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[14:14:34] <p0g0_> today
[14:15:02] <p0g0_> "we get to inherit early", what's the downside to that?
[14:15:02] <andypugh> They are talking about this going on for a year. I can’t see many companies surviving being closed down for a year.
[14:16:33] <SpeedEvil> SARS-1 had 10% of the working age population that got ill unable to work as normal the next year.
[14:16:34] <Javabean> a year is someone hoping and praying to get it over as fast as possible
[14:16:43] <SpeedEvil> SARS-2 - who knows.
[14:19:28] <SpeedEvil> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
[14:20:55] <Tom_L> SpeedEvil, don't eat all the good stuff first :)
[14:21:01] <p0g0_> two scenarios are fast- massive infection rates soon, or some damn lucky vaccine.
[14:21:14] <p0g0_> Nothing else ends soon.
[14:22:08] <SpeedEvil> Tom_L: trying to store grapes for 9 months may go poorly
[14:22:14] <p0g0_> wine?
[14:22:17] <Tom_L> make wine?
[14:22:26] <SpeedEvil> p0g0_: zombies on the 4th of July
[14:22:59] <p0g0_> vinegar, jellies, raisins...
[14:23:37] <gregcnc> what is south korea actually like now?
[14:23:45] <gregcnc> some places seem to have a handle on it
[14:23:55] <p0g0_> The food supply doesn't worry me much, distribution might be challenged, but I suspect that is managable.
[14:24:12] <gregcnc> singapore claims to be business as usual http://theconversation.com
[14:24:13] <Tom_L> kroger is hiring 10k more workers
[14:24:29] <SpeedEvil> What I'm worried about is lack of grocery delivery - which I rely on. Hence the above.
[14:24:34] <p0g0_> The food delivery companies in the US are hiring like mad.
[14:24:58] <gregcnc> but it's probably too late for that in many areas
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[14:25:11] <p0g0_> gregcnc, ?
[14:25:13] <gregcnc> this is probably how the matrix began
[14:25:25] <p0g0_> ah, you mean the tracking and sequestration
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[14:26:41] <gregcnc> right kind of like using anti seize. pay close attention and you can keep it at bay, don't and your wife will be asking why your willy is silver
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[14:27:29] <gregcnc> wife/partner/so/i don't judge
[14:29:53] <Javabean> https://cdn.discordapp.com
[14:30:38] <pcw_home> We could learn a lot from South Korea: massive testing and contact mapping
[14:32:21] <p0g0_> The contact mapping boat has sailed for the most part around here. Maybe the cell phone tracking types can still do it, but it's kinda past the sell by date.
[14:32:28] <p0g0_> USA)
[14:33:15] <FinboySlick> Heh, the can and maybe even have done it, but the capability is secret so they won't use it ;)
[14:34:28] <pcw_home> Yeah the US fiddled around for a month or so (so about 10Kx cases at the current 10X per 8 day rate)
[14:45:52] <methods_> perfect opportunity to free up some social security moniez
[14:47:26] <methods_> push them old's out onto the coronavirus iceberg
[14:48:58] <SpeedEvil> See above for problems with that approach - SARS1 affected 10% of the 'recovered' to the point they could not continue their previous work.
[14:52:59] <methods_> that was sarcasm
[14:53:44] <methods_> never translates well to irc
[14:55:26] <SpeedEvil> I was commenting about the people that might make that arguemnt seriously,rather than your comment.
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[14:56:39] <Tom_L> in the afermath someone should market a whole line of "I survived" memorabilia
[14:58:39] <methods_> with a giant roll of toilet paper on it
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[16:17:41] <CaptHindsight> grocery stores here are busy again
[16:18:29] <andypugh> https://youtu.be
[16:18:59] <CaptHindsight> people were joking about people not hoarding properly
[16:19:15] <CaptHindsight> "go back and get at least 3 of everything"
[16:20:41] <CaptHindsight> andypugh: Mitchell & Webb have some great sketches
[16:21:46] <CaptHindsight> what have you won? It's fuel
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[16:31:18] <SpeedEvil> CaptHindsight: my supermarket (Tesco) has just limited all orders, delivery and online, to 3 items per line.
[16:31:30] <SpeedEvil> This works well for rolls of TP. Less so for apples.
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[16:34:54] <XXCoder> only enough applies for 3 days
[16:35:05] <XXCoder> *apples
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[16:47:01] <CaptHindsight> how do you guys handle having multiples of the same parts on the same mill at one time?
[16:47:39] <CaptHindsight> if the fixture holds say 4 x 4 of the same part
[16:48:09] <XXCoder> theres 2 ways
[16:48:21] <XXCoder> if single stock can have all 4 sharing single coord
[16:48:35] <XXCoder> or you set coord each part g54 g55 etc
[16:48:54] <CaptHindsight> do you use the same CAM file for each part and then 0,0 for each part or do you generate CAM for the whole batch as one new file?
[16:49:22] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: so which way do YOU do it?
[16:49:42] <XXCoder> usually latter. i handcrafted one that had 9 parts to do a function all because it was huge and old machine couldnt handle it
[16:52:06] <XXCoder> *function all
[16:52:10] <XXCoder> *call dammit
[16:52:23] <CaptHindsight> heh, am I typing for you :)
[16:52:37] <CaptHindsight> <-- CaptTypo
[16:52:41] <XXCoder> :)
[16:53:17] <CaptHindsight> i think they the parts will all have their own reference marks
[16:53:29] <CaptHindsight> they/that
[16:53:40] <XXCoder> its usually easier to reuse also
[16:53:53] <XXCoder> if you use sheets its better to use one reference at corner
[16:53:57] <XXCoder> saves lot of time
[16:54:27] <CaptHindsight> these are all separate/individual parts
[16:54:51] <CaptHindsight> so they come in already separate, with reference marks
[16:55:25] <CaptHindsight> all the same size so they could fit several into one fixture
[16:56:31] <CaptHindsight> so they will be somewhat aligned, but I'll have to use the reference marks to get 0,0
[16:56:46] <CaptHindsight> a camera should do it
[16:57:37] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com similar
[16:58:29] <XXCoder> unwatchable but slides i see what you mean
[17:00:21] <andypugh> Maybe skunkworks can explain how he did that. 6 years ago
[17:01:12] <andypugh> And, for once, XXCoder, you are lucky. That video has a horrible high-pitched noise through it.
[17:01:18] <CaptHindsight> andypugh: we are getting opneCV working in qtpyvcp
[17:01:29] <XXCoder> andy its very bad for me too
[17:01:31] <XXCoder> visually
[17:01:48] <andypugh> Yes, but youi only get half the horror :-)
[17:01:49] <XXCoder> couldnt watch more than a second before i had to stop it and start just clicking though video
[17:01:53] <XXCoder> lol ok
[17:02:24] <CaptHindsight> the new branch is already capturing video
[17:02:42] <CaptHindsight> andypugh: heh, above my range already, I am immune
[17:03:23] <andypugh> I do seem to have unusual acuity at the top end for one of my age.
[17:03:47] <XXCoder> my body: "what is sound?"
[17:03:51] <CaptHindsight> i spent lots of time around loud music decades ago
[17:03:52] <XXCoder> ;)
[17:04:40] <CaptHindsight> andypugh: https://matrix.org
[17:05:00] <CaptHindsight> openCV widget with edge detection for QTPYVCP
[17:05:43] <CaptHindsight> andypugh: and we are getting the SVG slicer in QTPYVCP as a widget as well
[17:05:52] <XXCoder> svg slicer eh
[17:06:05] <XXCoder> svg to 2d toolpaths?
[17:06:15] <CaptHindsight> setting up the test mill later
[17:06:35] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: SVG layers for raster output, resin printers
[17:06:53] <XXCoder> hmm ok
[17:07:01] <XXCoder> been using slic3r slice to svg
[17:07:04] <XXCoder> for my laser
[17:07:14] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com
[17:07:29] <CaptHindsight> sure point source vector vs raster
[17:08:06] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: I do the same as you only with SLS
[17:08:22] <XXCoder> you have a sls? dang im jelious
[17:08:30] <XXCoder> i want to make nylon stuff using a sls
[17:08:44] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: yes i make all sorts of hybrid machines and printers
[17:09:11] <CaptHindsight> small SLS https://imgur.com
[17:09:26] <XXCoder> ahh yeah remember that one yeah
[17:09:36] <CaptHindsight> the cover is off the build chamber on the left
[17:10:25] <CaptHindsight> SVG slices are used for DLP/LCD printers https://imgur.com
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[17:30:28] <skunkworks> bent the boring bar.. oops.. I guess I will have to grind one.
[17:30:38] <XXCoder> doh
[17:31:06] <skunkworks> logic error - thought I could reset the eoffset and the polygon componant at the same time
[17:31:13] <skunkworks> I can't
[17:31:31] <CaptHindsight> skunkworks: I have a cheap set from Shars. I think they come prebent and dull
[17:31:46] <skunkworks> CaptHindsight: yes - same set I have
[17:31:56] <CaptHindsight> $20 or similar?
[17:32:17] <CaptHindsight> I knew they looked familiar
[17:32:54] <skunkworks> I think from enco... but same
[17:33:17] <CaptHindsight> well $14 was why i have them https://www.shars.com
[17:33:30] <CaptHindsight> how bad can they be? pretty bad
[17:34:35] <XXCoder> komit
[17:34:40] <XXCoder> you guys need it heh
[17:35:05] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: Shars is 45 minutes from me
[17:35:16] <skunkworks> they are usually grabbed as a last resort
[17:35:25] <CaptHindsight> it's on the way to one of my other suppliers so I'll stop in
[17:35:32] <XXCoder> fun
[17:35:39] <andypugh> Shars pops up a box “which best describes you: cnc magician / home shop hero / the happy hobbyist / other “
[17:35:43] <CaptHindsight> fine for abuse
[17:36:05] <andypugh> Can I have “all of the above?”
[17:36:16] <CaptHindsight> they have some nice end mills made in the USA
[17:36:25] <skunkworks> did I just stop the gene thread? sorry about that
[17:36:53] <XXCoder> skunk I wonder if it would work for thread cutting lol
[17:36:53] <CaptHindsight> the vises are great that i got
[17:37:00] <XXCoder> not tht its nesscary just curious
[17:37:20] <XXCoder> tool is probabky too long to make threads
[17:37:26] <CaptHindsight> parallels are ok, same for 123 blocks and some other odds and ends
[17:37:27] <Loetmichel> andypugh: all of the above ;)
[17:38:11] <skunkworks> hmm - spindle has decent torque at 20rpm
[17:39:25] <skunkworks> it is just a little lumpy
[17:39:47] <Loetmichel> skunkworks: "decent torque" as in "just put wrench on the ERXX nut and let the spindle tighten the tool" kind of torque?
[17:40:21] <skunkworks> no - like I can't seem to stop it by hand without hurting myself torque
[17:40:49] <skunkworks> more than enough torque for machining plastic
[17:40:57] <skunkworks> at small diameters
[17:43:38] <andypugh> I got a set of these: https://www.aliexpress.com
[17:43:42] <andypugh> Or similar.
[17:43:57] <andypugh> Note that includes 30 tips.
[17:44:22] <XXCoder> not bad
[17:44:30] <andypugh> Much cheaper without, obviously https://www.aliexpress.com
[17:44:31] <XXCoder> though not adjustable like komets at work
[17:45:13] <andypugh> Ah, well, you see…. I got the 18mm ones to fit my Wohlhaupter boring head.
[17:45:42] <XXCoder> https://www.aliexpress.com
[17:46:52] <andypugh> It isn’t clear what you get for your money there. But I suspect not quality.
[17:47:02] <XXCoder> definitely not quality no
[17:47:16] <XXCoder> cheap and you can use dial indictor to size it though
[17:47:50] <andypugh> And it does come with an “exquisite box”
[17:48:04] <XXCoder> love chineseium crap discriptions
[17:48:32] <andypugh> Is it me, or does the picture of the exquisite box look like a rendering?
[17:48:45] <CaptHindsight> shopping for tools there was always fun
[17:49:09] <CaptHindsight> they would have a few grades of each tool
[17:49:19] <CaptHindsight> how much do you want to spend
[17:49:22] <XXCoder> https://www.aliexpress.com interesting
[17:49:34] <XXCoder> expensivbe too
[17:50:03] <CaptHindsight> same for cordless tools, price went up by a few dollars based on how many volts the batteries are
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[17:54:39] <andypugh> I have some of those Komet shank adaptors.
[17:55:09] <andypugh> Interesting design.
[17:56:48] <andypugh> Komete ABS here: http://www.tools-n-gizmos.com
[17:57:19] <andypugh> Clever self-balancing screwy-wedgy thing
[17:58:49] <Tom_L> https://www.axios.com
[18:00:05] <CaptHindsight> Tom_L: silver lining
[18:00:29] <Tom_L> coronavirus: cure for global warming
[18:01:13] <CaptHindsight> what do about parent complaining about their kids being at home and eating too many carbs
[18:01:53] <Tom_L> might be good for them too new one on one parenting skills
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[18:03:05] <Tom_L> now all we need is a data blockout and we're surely doomed
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[18:03:16] <CaptHindsight> if it ends up that appeasing the gods by tossing them into volcanoes works, I am for it (parents not the kids)
[18:03:47] <Tom_L> both.. you really want those kids leading us in the future?
[18:04:03] <p0g0_> like we have done such a great job?
[18:04:04] <CaptHindsight> the kids might be better off
[18:04:14] <p0g0_> they get to inherit early too
[18:04:28] <XXCoder> what i hope for is they will see effects of envormental cleaning
[18:04:33] <XXCoder> and want to keep it going
[18:04:36] <XXCoder> but nah
[18:05:02] <Tom_L> XXCoder, naw... next years will have more impact
[18:05:07] <p0g0_> I dont think it is the kids that are missing that point
[18:05:09] <CaptHindsight> monkey see monkey do vs putting 2 and 2 together
[18:05:18] <XXCoder> true though there is some immendate effects'
[18:05:37] <p0g0_> The USA's heritage Foundation hired an eye candy schill to oppose ms Thunberg
[18:05:54] <CaptHindsight> why did they have kids?
[18:05:55] <p0g0_> That was a pack of old white guys...
[18:06:23] <CaptHindsight> p0g0_: truly warped group
[18:06:41] <p0g0_> well, they just fired their president too
[18:06:56] <p0g0_> losing revenue at a good clip
[18:06:56] <CaptHindsight> not white enough?
[18:07:07] <p0g0_> not effective enough
[18:08:05] <CaptHindsight> I don't recall seeing sun in Beijing
[18:08:51] <CaptHindsight> or stars at night
[18:08:52] <p0g0_> I suppose not, but if you've watched for 20+ years, there is a lot more effective concern in china, as well as a lot more gov't effort to stifle same.
[18:09:22] <p0g0_> If they'd quit building thermal coal power plants...
[18:13:09] <CaptHindsight> p0g0_: they have them in the Beijing, really tall chimneys every mile or less
[18:13:41] <CaptHindsight> the building tie into them for heat vs individual heating units
[18:13:44] <p0g0_> yep, and more under construction.
[18:14:08] <p0g0_> co-generation is not a bad thing, it's the energy source and the fugutive emmisions
[18:14:27] <p0g0_> I have lived around them for 5 decades...
[18:14:58] <CaptHindsight> http://www.china.org.cn
[18:15:08] <CaptHindsight> p0g0_: are you there now?
[18:16:01] <p0g0_> The bag houses are 95-99% effective, but for mercury but that 1-5% lands mostly within 50 miles. I am in Kentucky, USA
[18:16:01] <CaptHindsight> p0g0_: any talks of them going more nuclear for power?
[18:16:16] <CaptHindsight> ah the ones here
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[18:16:27] <p0g0_> I am not in China, but they have built more NPPs than anyone lately
[18:17:07] <CaptHindsight> what do we expect, we did the same when manufacturing was booming in the USA
[18:17:12] <p0g0_> Yet, they haven't met the real issues there yet- water, age, waste, what happens to public support when one goes oops.
[18:17:14] <CaptHindsight> no cares about tomorrow
[18:17:38] <CaptHindsight> no it's their turn now
[18:17:48] <CaptHindsight> manufacture
[18:17:56] <CaptHindsight> has been
[18:18:06] <CaptHindsight> now that has slowed
[18:18:12] <p0g0_> NPPs are the only energy source that gets abandoned when there are issues- so a nation ends up building the alternatives anyway- viz US, Japan, etc
[18:19:17] <p0g0_> And of course, there is the milspec side of things- what to do with all the Pu...
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[18:30:11] <Deejay> gn8
[18:30:12] <gloops> https://twitter.com
[18:30:27] <gloops> Man walks his dog using a drone while in quarantine
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[18:31:40] <andypugh> I call fake
[18:32:13] <XXCoder> so, whos taking the video?
[18:32:33] <skunkworks> another drone!
[18:32:36] <andypugh> (Not sure if it’s the same everywhere, but here it’s OK to go out for exercise by yourself)
[18:33:29] <Tom_L> just carry a 6' 2m stick with you to beat anyone off that violates your social distancing
[18:33:45] <XXCoder> why?
[18:34:01] <XXCoder> just use skunk oil and people distance themselves automatically
[18:35:34] <p0g0> mercaptan?
[18:35:38] <p0g0> could work
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[18:48:30] <Loetmichel> gloops: taht would probably work just AS well without the drone
[18:48:55] <XXCoder> sk lol drones all way in
[18:49:02] <Loetmichel> a neighbor back when i lived in a "skyscraper" with 160 appartments had a dog that would fit there
[18:49:36] <Loetmichel> every day at the same time she would take the lift down to the entrance of the building with her dog
[18:49:45] <Loetmichel> set the collie free
[18:50:38] <Loetmichel> and the dog would walk about 1 mile down the street, across two other streets into the woods. come back an hour later like clockwork to the front door of the house.
[18:50:54] <Loetmichel> "relieved" ;)
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[21:45:39] <_unreal_> So the batteries in my UPS have crapped out WTF
[21:45:46] <_unreal_> Mfer
[21:46:52] <XXCoder> jow old is it?
[21:47:10] <XXCoder> if its lathium ion, then yeah you can constantly charge it and it will drain to zero
[21:47:22] <XXCoder> it have to disconnect sometimes
[21:47:38] <Jymmm> I have yet to see a Li-Ion ups
[21:47:46] <_unreal_> 2018
[21:48:01] <XXCoder> i hope there never will
[21:48:20] <XXCoder> lathium ion is great on many stuff but being charged constantly not so great
[21:48:25] <SpeedEvil> _unreal_: how warm is your UPS room?
[21:48:35] <XXCoder> 2 years hmm thats around age yeah when it loses some charge
[21:48:37] <_unreal_> not worm
[21:48:42] * SpeedEvil is going to use Li-ion as a UPS.
[21:48:55] <SpeedEvil> (but typically 60-70% max charge)
[21:48:56] <_unreal_> those batteries typically crap out after two years
[21:49:18] <_unreal_> The batteries them selfs are fine...
[21:49:35] <_unreal_> if I take them out I could likely charge them with a 12v charger no problem
[21:49:43] <SpeedEvil> _unreal_: yeah - but what's the ESR
[21:49:52] <_unreal_> ding ding ding
[21:50:54] <Jymmm> ESR?
[21:51:22] <SpeedEvil> Effective series resistance
[21:51:51] <Jymmm> ah
[21:51:51] <SpeedEvil> A UPS will typically require the battery to be able to produce enough current to discharge it in 15 minutes.
[21:51:53] <_unreal_> SpeedEvil, would be nice if UPS's had a discharge cycle option to cycle the battery
[21:52:06] <SpeedEvil> _unreal_: lead-acid batteries aren't really helped at all by that.
[21:52:14] <_unreal_> My usp's are large
[21:52:58] <_unreal_> apx backups pro 1500
[21:53:33] <_unreal_> I have not paid for a single one ether :)
[21:53:54] <_unreal_> I find them in the dumpsters at work typically once twice a year
[21:53:57] <SpeedEvil> I have a the similar or same one
[21:54:06] <SpeedEvil> I have it hooked to 2*12V*100Ah
[21:54:12] <_unreal_> alyways the apc 1000 or 1500
[21:54:14] <SpeedEvil> From ~5 years ago.
[21:54:53] <SpeedEvil> I need to test it properly, but it seems to do >1kWh still.
[21:55:19] <_unreal_> ya my 1500 series can take an external battery bank
[21:55:35] <_unreal_> SpeedEvil, I'm really torn
[21:55:47] <_unreal_> really really torn need an opinion
[21:55:51] <SpeedEvil> on?
[21:55:56] <_unreal_> so I'm building my new cnc as you know
[21:56:05] <_unreal_> My psu is the question
[21:56:09] <_unreal_> I have a large tranformer
[21:56:16] <_unreal_> I can wire it 110/220
[21:56:41] <_unreal_> at work where I'm going to be bringing this system there is a 220 and plenty of 110
[21:56:49] <_unreal_> a single dedicated 220
[21:56:59] <_unreal_> but my UPS's are all 110
[21:57:12] <_unreal_> I'd like to have a backup for the the machine
[21:57:25] <SpeedEvil> what total watts?
[21:57:46] <_unreal_> good question. all my motors are rated for 33 watt 24v
[21:57:53] <_unreal_> 3 motors
[21:58:29] <_unreal_> I have two 75v 27,000uF rated caps https://www.powertronix.com
[21:58:33] <_unreal_> setting it up like that
[21:58:53] <_unreal_> I'm using ve7it motor servo controller so push pull for direction control
[21:59:03] <_unreal_> rather then H bridge
[21:59:07] <SpeedEvil> Sorry, afk
[21:59:21] <_unreal_> ?
[21:59:50] <_unreal_> SpeedEvil, real quick, I can wire the transformer for 220 or 110. it has 2x primaries/2x secondaries
[22:04:35] <_unreal_> any one live?
[22:05:04] <_unreal_> XXCoder, wonder if I could get this working on the lcnc box when I get it setup? https://www.amazon.com
[22:05:08] <_unreal_> I have one
[22:05:13] <XXCoder> looking
[22:05:20] <Jymmm> Nope, ran out of Dos Equis, had to drink Corona.
[22:05:30] <XXCoder> pretty sure can yeah
[22:05:43] <_unreal_> https://wiki.debian.org
[22:06:19] <_unreal_> XXCoder, I'm thinking it would be really cool to set that up. so I can just walk up to the machine finger it ((:)
[22:06:29] <_unreal_> and get it to unlock etc...
[22:06:43] <XXCoder> yeah makes it hard for someone else to access it
[22:06:46] <XXCoder> safier I guess
[22:06:51] <_unreal_> I have to regardless
[22:06:54] <Jymmm> _unreal_: If a xmfr has two primaries and not just centertapped, they are usually wired in series for 220 and in parallel for 110
[22:07:01] <_unreal_> I cant let any one but me run it
[22:07:14] <_unreal_> Jymmm, correct
[22:07:20] <_unreal_> I'm torn between running 220 or 110
[22:07:27] <_unreal_> if I do 220 cant use a backup USP
[22:07:50] <_unreal_> I dont have a 220v ups nore can I afford one expecially RIGHT NOW
[22:07:52] <_unreal_> ;)
[22:08:24] <_unreal_> Jymmm, I have a spare apc backups pro 1500 which takes an external battery pack
[22:08:28] <_unreal_> if desired
[22:09:04] <_unreal_> just be nice to not have a sudden power issue fuck up a milling job
[22:09:26] <_unreal_> the marina is know for power flux now and then. especially during the mid summer AND T storms
[22:09:30] <_unreal_> known
[22:11:27] <_unreal_> XXCoder, my UPS for my computer says I'm drawing 33 watts
[22:11:53] <_unreal_> for everything, laptop, external monitor. and a few other things that are plugged in
[22:11:58] <_unreal_> not much on though
[22:15:20] <XXCoder> not too bad
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[22:43:36] <_unreal_> freeeking agony
[22:43:44] <_unreal_> updating CC info on accounts
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[23:55:09] <XXCoder> CaptHindsight: https://github.com
[23:55:27] <XXCoder> nice if you have laser and want to seperate it into single layers
[23:55:46] <XXCoder> it used to be jpg and png only, I suggested svg and its possible now