#linuxcnc | Logs for 2020-03-21

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[00:23:32] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: I use Slic3r to make layered SVG's, then I'm using my own code as a widget in QTPY that ties into LCNC HAL to display layers while moving the Z
[00:23:50] <XXCoder> yeah different user case for me
[00:23:54] <XXCoder> im using laser engraver
[00:24:09] <CaptHindsight> SLS is similar to your engraver
[00:24:30] <CaptHindsight> it just sinters vs cuts
[00:26:20] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: how are YOU using layers with laser engraving?
[00:26:47] <CaptHindsight> do you engrave to multiple levels?
[00:27:01] <XXCoder> oh im just abusing it to save time, select all, convert to path, then use extensions animtools to make all of em its own layer
[00:27:11] <XXCoder> then mass export as svg (last part dont work)
[00:27:16] <XXCoder> https://github.com
[00:27:32] <XXCoder> machine is too small. only one layer a time
[00:27:47] <XXCoder> before I simply moved one a time which is annoying
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[00:30:39] <CaptHindsight> thanks for the link, the python might be useful
[00:31:19] <XXCoder> https://gitlab.com nice one also
[00:31:33] <XXCoder> export one dont work for me. 0.92. can you try?
[00:33:34] <CaptHindsight> maybe tomorrow
[00:33:38] <XXCoder> ok
[00:33:47] <CaptHindsight> long day, part zombie at the moment :)
[00:33:59] <XXCoder> wanted to play with laser but headachy
[00:34:02] <XXCoder> annoying
[00:34:43] <CaptHindsight> we go into "Stay at Home" mode tomorrow
[00:34:56] <CaptHindsight> 24 hour notice
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[00:42:19] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: how far are you from Wash?
[00:42:34] <XXCoder> far impiles being outside of it :)
[00:42:47] <XXCoder> im in washington state
[00:43:03] <CaptHindsight> Oh i thought you were in oregon
[00:43:24] <CaptHindsight> thinks that might be roycroft then
[00:43:56] <CaptHindsight> are you under a Stay at Home order?
[00:44:07] <CaptHindsight> Shelter in place
[00:44:15] <XXCoder> nope im only one guy in house that have to go out to work :(
[00:44:36] <XXCoder> work recently added hospital type auto mixer santanize
[00:45:58] <XXCoder> basically its attached to sink and it takes water and adds proper chemical amount during its flowing into container
[00:46:09] <XXCoder> i then can spray it on stuff to make it less infectious
[00:47:23] <CaptHindsight> I'll be back later, take care
[00:47:43] <XXCoder> later
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[04:34:00] <Deejay> moin
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[05:56:05] <jthornton> morning
[05:56:22] <XXCoder> yo
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[08:20:25] <Tom_L> morning
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[10:58:55] <Deejay> re
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[14:18:09] <CaptHindsight> SpeedEvil: ever work with the APT language or its derivatives? https://en.wikipedia.org(programming_language)
[14:18:25] <CaptHindsight> https://en.wikipedia.org
[14:19:12] <CaptHindsight> https://www.emerald.com
[14:19:34] <CaptHindsight> developed in at the University of Edinburgh School of Informatics
[14:21:56] <CaptHindsight> http://aptos.sourceforge.net
[14:22:15] <CaptHindsight> CAM before GUI's
[14:32:17] <CaptHindsight> http://www.vagrearg.org G-Code Meta Compiler
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[14:37:19] <JT-Shop> time to make a few chips I think
[14:37:45] <Tom_L> past time to eat a few
[14:39:00] <Tom_L> question is, are they wood or metal?
[14:39:21] <jdh> or potato
[14:39:51] <JT-Shop> these will be steel and the BB ribs will go on the grill shortly
[14:39:54] <CaptHindsight> Tom_L: did you get rain or snow the past couple days?
[14:40:39] <Tom_L> rain
[14:40:47] <Tom_L> but it was pretty chilly
[14:41:00] <CaptHindsight> there is a new RTAI kernel with the intel and nvidia drivers back in it
[14:41:28] <CaptHindsight> went from rain 60F to 23 last night and flurries
[14:41:45] <Tom_L> around 30ish here for the low i think
[14:43:06] <CaptHindsight> don't know if they will stop and harass if you have 2 people in a car starting later
[14:44:08] <CaptHindsight> practicing the 6ft rule means having any passenger in the back of the truck
[14:44:23] <CaptHindsight> which they tend to frown on
[14:47:04] <Tom_L> so does closing the borders mean the tunnels too?
[14:47:57] <Jymmm> Tom_L: Pfff, of course not =)
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[14:48:51] <CaptHindsight> I'm really interested in seeing the numbers from Mexico in a few months since they are deciding to do very little
[14:48:53] <Jymmm> But, what is the infected count in MX vs US ?
[14:49:05] <CaptHindsight> morbid but interesting comparison
[14:49:23] <Tom_L> doubt you get accurate numbers
[14:49:25] <Jymmm> Morbid how?
[14:49:50] <CaptHindsight> comparing death rates
[14:50:09] <Jymmm> I said INGECTED, not death
[14:50:14] <Jymmm> infected*
[14:50:33] <CaptHindsight> nothing was directed at you
[14:50:38] <Jymmm> oh
[14:50:49] <CaptHindsight> I was referring to deaths
[14:51:38] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Quercetin Dihydrate to transport zinc into cell walls https://www.sciencedirect.com
[14:51:58] <Jymmm> https://www.amazon.com
[14:56:41] <pcw_home> Unfortunately the count doesn't mean much, just the second derivative
[14:57:33] <Jymmm> pcw_home: Hey, how are you doing? Been thinking about ya
[14:57:50] <pcw_home> sheltering...
[14:58:02] <Jymmm> pcw_home: stocked up on essencials?
[14:58:33] <pcw_home> Yeah never really been an issue
[14:59:34] <Jymmm> pcw_home: Shelves are kinda bare here, vendors are only able to half fill orders
[15:00:11] <Jymmm> pcw_home: buy you have livestock too
[15:00:22] <pcw_home> My wife has always stocked lots of essentials so we are fine
[15:01:04] <SpeedEvil> CaptHindsight: no
[15:01:10] <Jymmm> pcw_home: cool, good to hear =)
[15:02:31] <CaptHindsight> many shelves here are empty by the afternoon, they restock every morning
[15:03:34] <CaptHindsight> odd site in the west in 2020, reminds me of the cold war films of the east or the US during the depression (1930's)
[15:04:13] <Jymmm> Yeah, I took pics of the empty shelves too
[15:04:42] <Javabean> lots of people are, but to be fair... its a fucking crazy sight to see
[15:05:04] <Jymmm> But, I did figure out the whole No TP thing
[15:05:32] <skunkworks> idiots?
[15:05:44] <CaptHindsight> people in line yesterday were joking about people with too few items as they were "hoarding" wrong
[15:06:54] <Jymmm> lol
[15:15:00] <Tom_L> almost as eerie as 9-12
[15:15:08] <Tom_L> and the 'no fly zones'
[15:15:25] <Tom_L> was exceptionally quiet here
[15:38:33] <jymmmm> skunkworks: no no, I mean the whole 1800's TP modernized
[15:39:42] <jymmmm> Back then each person had their own nail and rag in the outhouse, they they were responsable for.
[15:41:01] <jymmmm> Today's equiv.... one bucket full of clean rags (cut from old towels?), and a soiled bucket. Then just throw them into the washer just like you would cloth diapers.
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[16:49:13] <Jymmm> Hi Lawernce
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[17:44:19] <ve7it> Jymmm, good afternoon... wish I had built that bunker!
[17:45:01] <Jymmm> ve7it: Did oyu know, a potato in your bunker vent pipe defeats it all =?
[17:45:53] <ve7it> sounds like fun... fill bunker with propane... flick ur bic... instant potato gun
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[17:46:48] <ve7it> ( do not try this at home.... a public service announcement )
[17:48:56] <Jymmm> ot DO TRY THIS AT HOME =)
[17:54:17] <Deejay> gn8
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[18:32:05] <_unreal_> Hi alll
[18:32:27] <_unreal_> ve7it, what ever your talking about just bumped to the top of my bucket list
[18:33:11] <_unreal_> hay look ma I'm a human potato in a potato gun
[18:36:17] * SpeedEvil has lost a bandsaw.
[18:36:25] <_unreal_> ?
[18:36:29] <SpeedEvil> I know I had it before I tidied up.
[18:36:40] <_unreal_> ??
[18:36:46] <SpeedEvil> Portaband type thing I wanted to use for cutting threaded rod.
[18:37:00] <_unreal_> ok...
[18:37:19] <_unreal_> heh I saw a battery powered millwaki one I'd love to have portaband
[18:37:26] <_unreal_> I own two bandsaws
[18:37:35] <_unreal_> a 93" grizzly big old fucker
[18:37:42] <_unreal_> and a delta triband
[18:38:04] <SpeedEvil> I keep thinking of DIY.
[18:38:11] <_unreal_> ?
[18:38:18] <_unreal_> diy bandsaw?
[18:38:26] <SpeedEvil> portaband type thing battery
[18:38:31] <SpeedEvil> (got heavy mains one)
[18:38:31] <_unreal_> hum
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[18:39:34] <_unreal_> ! SHIT now I know what I could have grabbed from work... my 8" 1/4" drill bits
[18:39:43] <_unreal_> damn it
[18:40:02] <p0g0> _unreal_, folks make band saw wood mills, I did a bit of work on one a couple of decades Back- the crowned rollers and guides are available as a kit.
[18:40:06] <_unreal_> I need to drill mounting holes in my 3 servo motor controllers I built
[18:40:10] <_unreal_> from ve7it's designs
[18:40:24] <_unreal_> hum
[18:40:36] <_unreal_> I stil say its not worth DIY'ing a band saw
[18:40:59] <_unreal_> the $ money and effort will exceed any average bandsaw purchase price
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[18:41:41] <_unreal_> now if one lives in a remote area where getting tools is a joking conversation thats a different story
[18:41:47] <p0g0> Well, there are a lot of shop scale band saws
[18:41:47] <_unreal_> or country
[18:42:08] <p0g0> viz: http://cookssaw.com
[18:42:53] <p0g0> They'll sell the rollers and guides, for example.
[18:43:21] <_unreal_> ok? dont know what i'm looking for on that page so I 'll take your word for it
[18:43:47] <p0g0> https://cookssaw.com
[18:43:58] <p0g0> as an example
[18:44:39] <p0g0> I'm not encouraging you to build one, just saying some folks do.
[18:45:09] <_unreal_> lol very expesive
[18:45:17] <_unreal_> just for the wheel
[18:45:28] <_unreal_> ONE wheel eve
[18:45:29] <_unreal_> even
[18:45:38] <SpeedEvil> I was more thinking 100mm blade wheels.
[18:45:42] <p0g0> A good production band saw mill is pricy,
[18:46:24] <_unreal_> I'm not saying its dead. but I'm going to gladly say some areas of DIY are really diy'ing IMO
[18:46:54] <_unreal_> not sure what I want to work on right now
[18:47:11] <_unreal_> I need to drill mouting holes in my 3 motor controller pre heat sink heat sinks
[18:47:24] <_unreal_> so they can later be mounted to the main heat sink
[18:47:43] <_unreal_> Ineed to drill mounting holes in the HEAT sink
[18:48:04] <_unreal_> That would make it so I can mount my motor controllers
[18:48:19] <_unreal_> I need to get my PSU put together
[18:48:32] <_unreal_> and work on the machine wiring
[19:05:29] <_unreal_> ?
[19:05:36] <_unreal_> so quiet
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[20:01:12] <gregcnc> social distancing vs physical distancing?
[20:01:48] <XXCoder> hey
[20:02:59] <_unreal_> Hay baby
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[20:03:28] <gregcnc> i should have ordered some tooling I wanted during the week.
[20:03:40] <_unreal_> hum
[20:04:48] <gregcnc> saw my neighbor come home with lunch and.....
[20:04:52] <gregcnc> a rifle
[20:05:07] <XXCoder> oh just a quick lunch and murder pickup
[20:06:02] <gregcnc> they releasing prisoners in WA?
[20:06:02] <_unreal_> fuck with me I dare you "ching ching"
[20:06:21] <_unreal_> gregcnc, libs trying to push agenda. NOT likely
[20:06:46] <_unreal_> infact prisoners from what I hear DONT want to leave and be contaminated
[20:06:59] <Javabean> gregcnc: got some sauce for that?
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[20:08:27] <gregcnc> they are releasing low risk here
[20:08:59] <CaptHindsight> are shooting ranges considered "essential" businesses now?
[20:09:11] <gregcnc> yes, just read something
[20:09:20] <gregcnc> though our seems to have closed
[20:09:23] <XXCoder> i laugh each time someone says "liberal agenda"
[20:10:02] <CaptHindsight> yeah, what if we make the world a better place for no reason at all?
[20:11:06] <gregcnc> more improtantly liquor stores are also essential
[20:13:05] <gregcnc> is CDC really just not going to post updates on their site over the weekend?
[20:13:24] <XXCoder> h0ly crap myfordboy failed a pour
[20:13:29] <XXCoder> bottom belw out
[20:13:32] <XXCoder> blew
[20:14:03] <CaptHindsight> https://solar-power-now.com
[20:14:18] <XXCoder> capt yeah one of my favorites
[20:14:35] <CaptHindsight> mine as well
[20:15:01] <XXCoder> https://youtu.be
[20:18:36] <gregcnc> will fall season of TV/movies be dry?
[20:19:14] <CaptHindsight> yeah, could be a really late fall season or no new shows
[20:19:19] <XXCoder> whats washington state without rain?
[20:19:23] <XXCoder> nowashington thats what
[20:19:32] <CaptHindsight> rim shot
[20:19:52] <XXCoder> its been WEEKS of no rain wow
[20:20:09] <Javabean> you can have a "bud dum" but no "tiss"
[20:22:13] <CaptHindsight> gregcnc: where does the NYT get their official numbers then?
[20:22:37] <CaptHindsight> https://www.cdc.gov This page will be updated regularly at noon Mondays through Fridays. Numbers close out at 4 p.m. the day before reporting.
[20:23:11] <gregcnc> I would guess state sites
[20:23:46] <CaptHindsight> or the AP https://apnews.com
[20:24:18] <CaptHindsight> :p are these considered fake?
[20:27:53] <gregcnc> https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov
[20:28:14] <gregcnc> 3500 more than yesterday
[20:29:26] <Javabean> https://www.worldometers.info https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com
[20:30:06] <pcw_home> We are now the top below Italy and China in cases
[20:30:42] <pcw_home> probably surpass Italy is less than a week
[20:31:29] <pcw_home> log(cases) not looking good
[20:31:41] <CaptHindsight> are we are hardly testing yet
[20:32:52] <CaptHindsight> and if the new recommendation here is to only test where the treatment will drastically change, then the test numbers aren't apples to apples
[20:33:27] <CaptHindsight> maybe the death rate number will be accurate and comparable
[20:33:32] <pcw_home> the recent up-tic might reflect more testing
[20:34:15] <pcw_home> but its gone from about 10X per 8 days to 10x per 6 days if you extrapolate
[20:34:47] <gregcnc> yeah, I read that. not enough tests kits around here
[20:35:12] <pcw_home> Italy looks much better
[20:35:24] <Javabean> https://kvia.com
[20:37:16] <XXCoder> 303k total so far. nuts
[20:37:22] <XXCoder> almost 13k deaths
[20:37:38] <XXCoder> usa now 4th worst hit site
[20:38:20] <pcw_home> USA is 3rd in reported cases
[20:38:51] <pcw_home> Just beat Spain...
[20:38:58] <gregcnc> Population italy 60M, USA 320M
[20:39:13] <pcw_home> Yep, not good
[20:39:16] <XXCoder> oh youre right
[20:39:19] <gregcnc> so how did China really fair with 1.4B
[20:39:22] <XXCoder> i forgot to refresh from few hours ago
[20:39:33] <XXCoder> gregcnc: repressive goverment
[20:39:45] <XXCoder> one of VERY few postives about it
[20:39:55] <Javabean> the ability to lie their asses off with no repercussions?
[20:40:03] <pcw_home> Korea did really well
[20:40:22] <XXCoder> im surpised india wasnt really hit either
[20:40:29] <CaptHindsight> also Japan and Taiwan
[20:40:30] <pcw_home> Juts wait...
[20:40:33] <XXCoder> it has 3 most dense areas in top 5
[20:40:50] <CaptHindsight> india is just behind
[20:41:13] <XXCoder> japan culture is very good on social distancing and mask wearing, as well as protecting others from themselves as well as protecting themselves
[20:41:27] <gregcnc> I think it comes down to the Asian countries experience with the previous diseases. the rest of the world just isn't prepared
[20:41:44] <CaptHindsight> Taiwan learned from SARS-1
[20:41:47] <pcw_home> 3rd world countries will likely be hit the hardest though being late may help with better treatments
[20:42:54] <CaptHindsight> good time to vacation in the Yukon
[20:43:04] <XXCoder> north pole
[20:43:05] <CaptHindsight> stay at your remote cabin
[20:44:24] <CaptHindsight> positive spin "trump was just trying to beat China with highest score!"
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[20:46:54] <pcw_home> MAGA!
[20:47:08] <XXCoder> man, again, get away!
[20:47:12] <pcw_home> we will beat China in 2 weeks
[20:47:41] <pcw_home> maybe less
[20:47:56] <XXCoder> flornia beach will help!
[20:48:01] <XXCoder> huge crowds
[20:48:49] <pcw_home> from all over the US, going back to all over the US
[20:49:28] <gregcnc> yeah that will be great
[20:53:49] <XXCoder> "file dont lie" lol
[20:53:53] <XXCoder> man I love this old tony
[20:54:01] <XXCoder> https://youtu.be
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[22:18:47] <veegee> So MIG welding is pretty much the same as stick welding but with a shielding gas and it feeds the wire for you
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[22:19:46] <XXCoder> from what I saw in various channels and expecially this old tony yeah
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[22:25:19] <Tom_L> veegee, sounds about right
[22:25:39] <veegee> Ok great, then I don't care for it
[22:25:53] <veegee> Looks like I'm going to be getting a TIG welder because TIG and stick is all that matters
[22:25:54] <Tom_L> i got a mig welder
[22:26:07] <Tom_L> tig would be nice
[22:33:41] <rue_mohr> tig can be annoying
[22:33:48] <rue_mohr> you need to set up a grinder right beside ya
[22:34:03] <rue_mohr> makes nice welds tho
[22:34:20] <rue_mohr> I'v never done anything heavy in tig
[22:37:37] <Tom_L> i've never needed one yet
[22:42:28] <veegee> Yeah I don't mind cleaning the workpiece. I don't fabricate anything in quantity. My stuff is entirely for hobby purposes. I care entirely about quality, not quantity
[22:42:53] <veegee> Unrelated, but who makes permanent magnet AC motors?
[22:43:16] <Tom_L> i did my mill with a mig
[22:43:51] <veegee> Baldor has a nice online catalog of their induction motors, but I can't seem to find anything for permanent magnet synchronous AC motors
[22:44:46] <veegee> Damn, only found their catalog for up to 3hp models. Was hoping for a 10-15hp one
[22:45:41] <Javabean> probably be cheaper to build one that size by hand... the shipping alone might be more than the sell price
[22:46:41] <veegee> wow yeah they are insanely expensive
[22:47:01] <veegee> ok I guess totally not worth it for the efficiency gains
[22:49:16] <veegee> Also what the hell, their 2hp PMAC motor is 87.5% efficient and their 2hp induction motor is 86.5% efficient...
[22:49:25] <veegee> PMAC should be far more efficient than that
[22:50:09] <Javabean> there could be patents in their way
[22:53:13] <XXCoder> tom saw tony;'s video about heat treatment furance. amazing
[22:53:27] <XXCoder> it makes hardening and annealing much easier
[23:00:03] <_unreal_> are there any low cost auto tool change spindles?
[23:03:10] <XXCoder> in what sense of low cost?
[23:03:23] <XXCoder> $10,000 would be insanely cheap for large production machine for example
[23:04:56] <_unreal_> wondering if there are any small spindles that are available
[23:09:00] <Tom_L> https://cadcamcadcam.com
[23:11:24] <XXCoder> not bad really
[23:11:37] <XXCoder> looks like same taper type as office mill
[23:11:45] <XXCoder> dont buy office mill, haas btw
[23:11:56] <XXCoder> unless youre running it like 10 times a year
[23:13:54] <XXCoder> or have very strict maintance that cleans chips off ways and voids in machine (like rear column)
[23:48:32] <CaptHindsight> _unreal_: https://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com
[23:49:07] <XXCoder> thats at small production level
[23:49:13] <XXCoder> dont think unreal operates at that level
[23:49:18] <CaptHindsight> https://www.aliexpress.com
[23:49:25] <XXCoder> wonder if theres such thing as sub-500 atc
[23:49:31] <CaptHindsight> US $459
[23:49:37] <XXCoder> it does. interesting
[23:49:54] <XXCoder> bt30 definitely small enough for his machine
[23:50:03] <XXCoder> no idea how to design to use it though lol
[23:50:22] <CaptHindsight> https://cdn.carbuzz.com
[23:50:40] <XXCoder> what about that ferrani?
[23:50:41] <XXCoder> ;)
[23:51:37] <CaptHindsight> cheap ferrari, like cheap spindles
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[23:52:04] <XXCoder> checked. yep bt30 is same as my toolholder I bought to demonstate spindle stuff to people
[23:52:17] <XXCoder> https://www.aliexpress.com
[23:52:27] <XXCoder> though no cat20 atc?
[23:52:30] <XXCoder> tiny ones
[23:53:37] <XXCoder> iso20
[23:54:28] <XXCoder> https://www.aliexpress.com more money lol
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