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[00:37:03] <pink_vampire> hi
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[00:44:20] <JesseG> Howdy
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[01:17:20] <Wolf__> so, I recently discovered what a Mach3 based machine is like…
[01:18:59] <JesseG> And....? What was it like?
[01:19:08] <JesseG> I never used one myself.
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[01:20:06] <Wolf__> my business partner found a tru-cut plasma table for a good price, I’m not impressed with it
[01:21:29] <Wolf__> well, the machine is ok, the control software. not so much
[01:29:29] <Wolf__> THC/torch reference has been glitching out time to time, sometimes the machine dro will say its zeroed to the workpeice but on cycle start will think its at -60”,-30” which causes the machine to take off and crash if you dont catch it…
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[01:32:05] <Wolf__> And one thing that really made me go WTF was that the manual from Tru-Cut states not to use soft limits or machine cords ever…
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[05:08:32] <XXCoder> hey pink_vampire
[05:13:48] <pink_vampire> hi XXCoder
[05:14:00] <XXCoder> whats up
[05:14:14] <pink_vampire> not much
[05:14:30] <XXCoder> work is very slow :(
[05:14:50] <pink_vampire> everything is slow now
[05:15:10] <XXCoder> company will not close even if wa state goes into lockdown
[05:15:15] <XXCoder> essental work
[05:15:39] <XXCoder> but we have very serious underflow of jobs due to 737 max failure and boeing closedown for 2 weeks
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[05:16:43] <pink_vampire> WOW
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[05:28:34] <Deejay> moin
[05:31:59] <pink_vampire> hi Deejay
[05:34:32] <p0g0> XXCoder, Boeing, per todays papers, also cut P8 & the air tanker lines. As a guess, compounding their own flaws, it will be a while. Toyota, here, has kicked the can down the road a couple of times, i wouldn't try to guess when that production line will restart.
[05:35:10] <XXCoder> p0 yeah 70% of company business is boeing
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[05:35:17] <XXCoder> 40% 737 max
[05:36:09] <p0g0> monocultures vs diversity...
[05:37:25] <XXCoder> yeah company have been working on diversity
[05:37:31] <XXCoder> have done pretty well
[05:37:48] <Loetmichel> hmpf. The "fun" you can have wit post processors... $me is just trying to get CURA to support those magenta ringed corners better... any ideas? -> http://www.cyrom.org
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[05:44:38] <rmu|w> Loetmichel: make 2 parts, glue them together
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[05:46:07] <Loetmichel> rmu|w: not an option, must look impeccable, its a visible part.
[05:46:18] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org
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[05:46:36] <Loetmichel> those black corners to hide the miter cuts in the alu
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[05:56:27] <Tom_L> morning
[05:56:56] <pink_vampire> hi Tom_L
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[06:46:45] <jthornton> morning
[06:56:11] <XXCoder> hey
[06:56:21] <XXCoder> cell im running is running out of jobs :(
[06:56:40] <XXCoder> only 3 jobs left and thats it. normally we always have months lineup and we already finished
[07:07:53] * Loetmichel is just facing off his vacuum table. with a 35mm diameter wood router slot tool in the spindle. QUITE scary at 24krpm :-)
[07:08:44] <XXCoder> fun
[07:51:13] <SpeedEvil> :) :(
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[08:24:21] <net|> https://i.imgur.com
[08:30:53] <net|> couple paste togethers i found searching web.
[08:54:44] <Loetmichel> XXCoder: imagie THAT but with a mill bit twice the diameter: https://www.youtube.com
[08:54:56] <Loetmichel> ... and pertinax instead of MDF :)
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[09:23:51] <jymmmm> one sq mile is 640 acres, interesting
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[10:38:59] <skunkworks> it is 80 acres X 80 acres
[10:39:28] <skunkworks> maybe
[10:39:38] <skunkworks> that can't be right
[10:45:42] <gregcnc> the 40 acreplots typically seen in rural areas are 1/4 mile x 1/4mile
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[11:02:46] <unterhaus> I was probably in close proximity to someone with covid19 on the 7th
[11:03:16] <unterhaus> I guess that wasn't just a cold I had last week :)
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[11:23:07] <p0g0> an acre is 204' on a side, 43560 sq feet, 640 acres to a square mile.
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[11:49:44] <SpeedEvil> Just remember an acre as 0.404586 hectares. Easy.
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[12:20:46] <rmu|w> Loetmichel: as long as you stay below the speed of sound...
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[12:42:50] <jymmmm> FYI... If you need to help pick up someone after a fall, you can use a sheet under their butt as a lift swing
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[12:46:55] <jymmmm> unterhaus: zinc and https://www.amazon.com
[12:47:15] <jymmmm> unterhaus: https://www.youtube.com
[12:47:34] <Loetmichel> rmu|w: sound isnt the problem here... not trusting the ER11 collet to hold that hunk of metal in at 24krpm is the problem :-)
[12:48:09] <jymmmm> Loetmichel: secure at 48K rpm though
[12:48:33] <Loetmichel> Jymmm: you think so? :-)
[12:52:00] <jymmmm> Loetmichel: I stopped thinking long ago
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[13:03:42] <Loetmichel> would you feel confident having this but in 36mm diameter running in a spindle with ER11? -> https://www.sautershop.com
[13:03:54] <Loetmichel> thats quite a hunk of metal
[13:05:29] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org <- lower picture in the mill bit stand., the orange hunk
[13:20:27] <Rab> Loetmichel, it depends on how you're holding an 8mm shank in ER11.
[13:28:06] <Loetmichel> with an oversized er11 collet
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[13:53:41] <Loetmichel> Rab: you can buy ER11 collets with 8mm, although thats not within spec
[13:57:48] <CaptHindsight> from a sales brochure https://imagebin.ca which mill is more rigid?
[13:58:18] <Loetmichel> problem is that the 800W watercooled spindles only have a (8mm hollow) 14mm shaft... thats NOT much if you develop a unbalance on that router bit and full speed
[14:01:01] <Rab> CaptHindsight, what is your agenda with this question
[14:02:42] <CaptHindsight> jymmmm: https://www.nbcnews.com
[14:03:10] <CaptHindsight> Rab: getting to their agenda
[14:03:14] <gregcnc> i wsa trying to figure out what the dosage is in meds
[14:04:22] <roycroft> that guy died from eating fish tank cleaner that contained chloroquine
[14:04:28] <roycroft> not a prescription drug
[14:04:49] <roycroft> and the dosage of chloroquine to treat covid-19 is 0.000000000mg
[14:05:15] <CaptHindsight> so don't drink a bottle of bleach?
[14:05:50] <roycroft> do not even do the bleach pod challenge
[14:05:51] <cradek> that poor woman
[14:06:19] <roycroft> and for that matter, i would recommend against doing the "lick a toilet for coronoavirus" challengs
[14:06:21] <Rab> CaptHindsight, if their labeling is to be believed, I infer at least 8 axes plus ATC on the mill at left...looks awesome, furiously adding to cart.
[14:06:31] <roycroft> it's really sad that i would have to say that
[14:06:34] <SpeedEvil> The trial that lead to this found it inhibited replication of the virus, but more people taking it died than in the control arm
[14:06:35] <roycroft> but it needs to be said
[14:06:52] <roycroft> the "trial" was a single, isolated study of 20 people
[14:07:27] <roycroft> and yes, even that provided no useful anecodotal information
[14:07:36] <gregcnc> they are trialing in NY now
[14:07:44] <roycroft> but it was enough for the faux news folks to jump all over it
[14:08:27] <roycroft> and that meant, of course, that president fuckhead who knows more about medicine ("i have a knack for it") than the entire collective global medical community, now recommends it so that people can get back to work
[14:09:08] <roycroft> that couple who ate fish tank cleaner did it because the president told them to
[14:09:13] <roycroft> he should be charged with murder for that
[14:09:42] <gregcnc> wow
[14:10:27] <CaptHindsight> note to self: dosage matters
[14:10:40] <roycroft> note to all: credentials matter
[14:11:34] <roycroft> failing at business is not a valid credential to practise medicine
[14:11:45] <roycroft> being a successful carnival barker is not a valid credential to practise medicine
[14:12:39] <CaptHindsight> carnival barkers are not dogs
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[14:13:58] <roycroft> i'd take the medical advise of a dog before i'd take it from our president
[14:14:27] <gregcnc> i guess there are better thigns to do today
[14:14:55] <roycroft> dogs are loyal to their owners and want them to be healthy and well
[14:15:17] <CaptHindsight> warm weather on the way here!
[14:15:41] <gregcnc> yes I'm ready, probably take the family out out one of the parks
[14:16:13] <methods_> i think he should continue to give medical advice to his cult members
[14:16:25] <roycroft> that would be a class c misdemeanor in oregon at the moment, gregcnc
[14:16:26] <methods_> maybe they'll all eat some fish tank cleaner
[14:16:41] <roycroft> methods_: i don't want anyone to die
[14:16:41] <gregcnc> stlll legal in IL
[14:16:43] <roycroft> not even the base
[14:16:55] <methods_> but it's what they want
[14:17:03] <methods_> you gotta give the people what they want
[14:17:06] <roycroft> even if they want to die
[14:17:17] <methods_> the customer is always right
[14:17:29] <roycroft> that's not true at all
[14:17:39] <methods_> probably not
[14:17:43] <roycroft> the customer should, whenever possible, be made to feel that the customer is right
[14:17:46] <methods_> sounded good though
[14:17:47] <roycroft> but the customer is often wrong
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[14:18:57] <methods_> as someone who has had the corona virus and taken chloroquine several times in the past i have to tell you i'd much rather have the corona virus
[14:19:15] <methods_> chloroquine is miserable shit
[14:19:37] <methods_> i'm talkin about the actual medicine not the fish tank cleaner
[14:19:53] <CaptHindsight> was wondering
[14:20:15] <methods_> yeah i'm not a trump voter i took the medicine stuff for malaria
[14:20:22] <methods_> not the fish tank cleaner
[14:20:30] <CaptHindsight> did it help?
[14:20:39] <methods_> i don't know i didn't get malaria
[14:20:43] <methods_> so i guess?
[14:21:00] <methods_> i didn't take it for corona virus
[14:21:20] <methods_> i was sick for a couple hours on saturday and weirdly another couple hours on sunday
[14:21:24] <methods_> very strange disease
[14:21:38] <CaptHindsight> just pushed through it?
[14:21:50] <methods_> saturday was just fever, muscle aches and headache
[14:22:05] <methods_> sunday was the cough for like 4 hours
[14:22:11] <methods_> and then gone like i never had anytyhing
[14:22:21] <methods_> very very strange disease
[14:22:35] <CaptHindsight> have had similar symptoms over the past month myself
[14:22:36] <methods_> i honestly don't think i've ever had anything quite like it
[14:23:27] <gregcnc> it's appearently a very common med for prevention of malaria when you travel
[14:23:36] <methods_> yeah that's what i've taken it for
[14:23:42] <methods_> and mefliquine i think
[14:23:46] <methods_> or something like that
[14:23:53] <CaptHindsight> what were your side effects?
[14:23:54] <methods_> but definitely chloroquine 2x
[14:24:00] <gregcnc> people take it for years
[14:24:01] <methods_> side effects from cholorqu9ine?
[14:24:05] <CaptHindsight> yes
[14:24:10] <methods_> headache, photophobia
[14:24:16] <methods_> just feel like shit
[14:24:23] <methods_> and DO NOT drink milk
[14:24:35] <methods_> unless you want to make interesting art
[14:24:58] <methods_> projectile art lol
[14:25:04] <gregcnc> i read a covid19 account that said somethign about itchy burning painful eyes. I had somethign like that recently
[14:25:27] <methods_> oh yeah my eyes were very weird i forgot about that
[14:25:34] <methods_> i had super blurry vision
[14:25:59] <Rab> methods_, any effect on your sense of smell?
[14:26:00] <methods_> the wife had it asymptomatic i think
[14:26:07] <CaptHindsight> I have had all the symptoms of Covid-19 and many other diseases
[14:26:08] <methods_> yeah my wife was smelling crazy smells
[14:26:27] <skunkworks> wow - wd40 does work ok for removing silly putty from fabric
[14:26:28] <methods_> i didn't have any smell symptoms but for about 30 min my face went completely numb
[14:26:31] <methods_> one side of it
[14:26:37] <gregcnc> my kids were boht sick. daughter longer than usual, but she tested for flu
[14:26:59] <methods_> like getting a shot at the dentist numb
[14:27:02] <methods_> very weird
[14:27:16] <methods_> that scared me a little bit
[14:27:18] <gregcnc> wow
[14:27:26] <methods_> and the next day i had bad chest pain with the cough
[14:27:31] <CaptHindsight> methods_: do you know which test they used for you?
[14:27:32] <methods_> i thought i was having a heart attack
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[14:27:38] <methods_> they woulndn't give me a test
[14:27:47] <methods_> i had a viral respiratory illness
[14:28:15] <methods_> definitely not corona virus
[14:28:27] <methods_> definitely just a viral respiratory illness
[14:28:29] <methods_> no need to test
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[14:30:31] <methods_> i was speechless but expected nothing less
[14:31:06] <methods_> don't want those corona virus confirmations getting too high
[14:31:59] <CaptHindsight> how Russia is handling it as well, can't have positives if you don't test
[14:32:08] <methods_> yup
[14:32:14] <methods_> just lots of pneumonia deaths
[14:33:39] <CaptHindsight> one of the reasons my dad left Russia in the 40's
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[14:34:42] <CaptHindsight> it's funny how many people don't see the same things going on around them while living in it
[14:35:22] <methods_> well the silly part is that if they did more testing it would drive down the mortality rate
[14:35:32] <CaptHindsight> same in China, they believe the narrative vs their own eyes and ears
[14:35:55] <methods_> but nope they're not going to test and inflate the shit out of the mortality rate
[14:36:03] <CaptHindsight> the workers are expendable
[14:36:23] <methods_> sure but i don't think it's a whole lot more deadly than the normal flu
[14:36:37] <methods_> if they were testing you'd see that
[14:36:57] <methods_> but since there not the only people getting tested are the ones dying or the worst cases that are hospitalized
[14:37:06] <methods_> s/there/they're
[14:37:16] <CaptHindsight> how are you feeling today?
[14:37:21] <methods_> i'm fine
[14:37:26] <methods_> like nothing ever happened
[14:37:33] <methods_> i ran 4 miles this morning
[14:38:06] <methods_> i picked up the pace a few times to see if i had any issues but only when i was really pushin it i could feel it a bit in the chest still
[14:38:43] <methods_> i was only running 9 min/mile pace so i wasn't really running fast or anything
[14:40:28] <gregcnc> people were paying crazy money for chloroquine phosphate on ebay
[14:40:41] <CaptHindsight> a friends sister ended up in the ICU a few weeks back before the news of cases here started
[14:40:57] <gregcnc> all listings even completed pulled
[14:41:02] <skunkworks> I have had the 'flu' twice in the last few months. Still coughing up crud.
[14:41:17] <CaptHindsight> unknown viral pneumonia
[14:41:54] <roycroft> people are looking for miracle cures
[14:42:16] <gregcnc> LD50 is high though
[14:42:24] <roycroft> something that is 100% effective and totally painless
[14:42:36] <CaptHindsight> eat well , exercise, get plenty of rest is one
[14:42:41] <roycroft> and they're unwilling to accept that no such cure exists
[14:43:20] <roycroft> i agree 100% that maintaining a healthy lifestyle is great at preventing the disease, and at mitigating the effects should one contract it anyway
[14:43:37] <gregcnc> for me staying hydrated with nausea is hard
[14:43:51] <methods_> i didn't get any nausea with this
[14:44:06] <CaptHindsight> stay off facebook and avoid kardashisans for mental health
[14:44:11] <gregcnc> and for last few years if i get sick, headache and nausea is about all i get
[14:44:12] <methods_> definitely fatigue and headaches
[14:44:24] <roycroft> i already do that, capthindsight :)
[14:44:58] <roycroft> although i did read about some taylor swift/kardashian feud today, and found it mildly entertaining
[14:45:37] <CaptHindsight> haven't gotten to the pop news section yet
[14:46:14] <Rab> Our stay-at-home order goes in tonight, but outdoor (solo) exercise is specifically exempted. Good thing too, perfect spring weather.
[14:47:01] <CaptHindsight> Rab: same here, I notice the police patrolling the parks since the playgrounds are closed
[14:47:23] <gregcnc> really? wife asked me if they would be
[14:47:47] <CaptHindsight> park are open, just not the playgrounds
[14:48:12] <CaptHindsight> outdoor basketball courts and tennis are open
[14:48:13] <Rab> Same here, until the parks and trails become packed with people I guess.
[14:48:13] <gregcnc> right, I mean the cops checking the playgrounds
[14:48:44] <gregcnc> basketball with 6 ft rule?
[14:48:47] <CaptHindsight> yeah, i walk everyday and it is where i always seem then parked
[14:48:58] <methods_> heheh only allowed to play horse
[14:49:08] <CaptHindsight> have only seen solo or half court hoop shooters
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[14:49:39] <CaptHindsight> lots of kids on the bike paths
[14:49:51] <CaptHindsight> and they are staying a few feet apart
[14:51:15] <CaptHindsight> people around here are walking way off to the side when you pass
[14:56:35] <roycroft> that's permitted here - solitary outdoor exercise
[14:57:03] <roycroft> but our parks are all closed
[14:57:17] <roycroft> the bike paths are still open
[14:58:06] <pcw_mesa> The somewhat scary thing is that with the current # of deaths (which take ~3 weeks post infection). it means that when reported US cases were ~100 we likely had 10000 or more
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[14:58:50] <roycroft> our deaths, if we continue to try to contain and isolate, will be in the tens to hundreds of thousands
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[14:59:12] <roycroft> if we all go back to normal life on easter as president fuckhead wants, it will likely be in the millions
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[14:59:44] <pcw_mesa> help the economy, kill the seniors!
[14:59:58] <roycroft> i am not willing to die for the dow
[15:00:31] <roycroft> i am over 60, and at high risk, so i'm taking that pretty personally
[15:01:16] <roycroft> i had pneumonia a few years ago and suffered some permanent lung scarring from it
[15:01:25] <roycroft> that puts me in the extremely high risk category
[15:02:00] <pcw_mesa> not good I'm 68 but in decent overall health
[15:02:21] <roycroft> your age alone puts you at high risk
[15:02:27] <roycroft> but being otherwise healthy is good
[15:07:35] <CaptHindsight> are people supposed to alternate between day and night pajamas or just change every 2-3 days?
[15:07:55] <gregcnc> depends if you leave the house
[15:08:06] <CaptHindsight> not so sure :)
[15:08:22] <gregcnc> and if you have any toilet paper left
[15:08:39] <CaptHindsight> did you see the TP calculator?
[15:09:08] <CaptHindsight> https://howmuchtoiletpaper.com
[15:09:18] <CaptHindsight> people have years worth
[15:09:29] <MovT> hi @ll
[15:09:54] <gregcnc> supposedly those people just put a teaspoon the cp powder in water and downed it
[15:10:06] <MovT> hop all are well in these days
[15:10:10] <CaptHindsight> MovT: hello
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[15:18:42] <MovT> i am fighting with the opengl preview on LCNC 2.8 to change the ruler digits och disable them complete. i searched viea google and the forums but nothing found. anybody here have a hint?
[15:18:54] <MovT> och=or
[15:19:21] <cradek> did you try all the options on the View menu?
[15:21:07] <MovT> cradek, yes. i use QtPyVCP and the Probe_Basic there are no options and no menu
[15:21:30] <Tom_L> did you ask over there?
[15:21:37] <Tom_L> in #hazzy
[15:22:44] <MovT> Tom_L, is that a channel for QTPyVCP?
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[15:22:50] <Tom_L> yes
[15:22:54] <Tom_L> and probe basic
[15:23:28] <cradek> oh sorry, I assumed you were talking about AXIS, I don't know otherwise
[15:23:38] <Tom_L> me too at first
[15:24:15] <MovT> sorry for the misunderstanding. i joined #hazzy and ask there again. thanks Tom_L and cradek
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[15:39:48] <MovT> silence in #hazzy :|
[15:40:19] <MovT> maybe all are out for shopping :/
[15:40:54] <Tom_L> hazzy or turboboss should answer when they are there
[15:41:01] <Tom_L> timezones
[15:41:23] <CaptHindsight> TurBoss has been awol in Spain
[15:41:42] <Tom_L> then there is that
[15:42:02] <MovT> yea same timezone like mine. gmt+1
[15:42:12] <MovT> i am in germany
[15:42:36] <MovT> i am not in a hurry
[15:43:07] <Tom_L> just leave the log on and check in later
[15:43:32] <MovT> i try to dig in the code... guess there is all the stuff around the opengl viewer
[15:43:45] <MovT> yes i will do.
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[15:45:42] <Tom_L> if you use riot and matrix you don't even have to be on for it to capture for you
[15:47:08] <Tom_L> https://about.riot.im
[15:47:39] <Tom_L> most of them use it over there
[15:55:29] <MovT> thnx but the pc for linuxcnc is always on and i use it for most things i do :) its an industrial pc by HISTTON. i love it. builtin RS485 and 6 com ports wifiy and gbit copper 8 usb ports 2.0 + 3.0... more you cant expect
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[16:58:07] <MovT> re
[16:58:21] <MovT> hehe time for riot :]
[16:59:34] <XXCoder> riot for what
[16:59:51] <XXCoder> also, sigh. https://imgur.com
[17:00:24] <CaptHindsight> sounds reasonable
[17:00:41] <XXCoder> isnt that opposite of social distancing? heh
[17:01:00] <CaptHindsight> body condoms
[17:04:04] <XXCoder> gimp suit? :P
[17:08:13] <gregcnc> https://www.marketwatch.com
[17:13:36] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: https://www.amazon.com
[17:13:41] <perry_j1987> hows it going guys
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[17:15:33] <rmu|w> female virologist that was interviewed by public austrian radio said "I would not go to whorehouse at the moment, not even with a face mask"
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[17:20:26] <gregcnc> perry_j1987 i guess the trip to the whorehouse is cancelled
[17:20:41] <perry_j1987> lol
[17:20:52] <perry_j1987> crazy stuff going on out there
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[17:40:37] <Deejay> gn8
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[20:35:33] <_unreal_> XXCoder, typical politician
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[21:11:54] <flyback> bmcc
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[23:33:08] <_unreal_> quiet
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[23:55:41] <Tom_L> shhh, we're all under quarantine
[23:56:45] <rue_mohr> ARE WE BEING QUIET NOW?
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