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[00:42:53] <pink_vampire> I think the lathe handles are too small
[00:44:09] <pink_vampire> also why there is a ball in the handle in some models?
[00:48:13] <XXCoder> dunno, most seem to have that
[00:49:15] <pink_vampire> I think it was originally was made to balance large handles
[00:53:37] <XXCoder> likely
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[06:08:09] <jthornton> morning
[06:08:21] <XXCoder> hey ex-cave
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[06:18:57] <JT-Cave> test
[06:22:05] <XXCoder> caveman is back!
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[06:27:35] <JT-Cave> I'm almost done with the run for the Cinnamon Queens but this heat is wearing me out
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[06:33:56] <XXCoder> i bet. heat sucks for me
[06:34:18] <XXCoder> ugh looks like wed might be 78f and cloudy. hummmmmid
[06:34:58] <JT-Cave> yea mid 90's here
[06:35:30] <XXCoder> oit dont get very wet here, even in raining time
[06:35:33] <XXCoder> like 60%
[06:35:50] <XXCoder> winters is drier
[06:36:36] <JT-Cave> 90% right now but by the afternoon it's been down to 30%
[06:53:32] <Loetmichel> *hmpf* just poured a coffee all over my station wagons center console... i really should have bought a convertible with as much hp as the station wagon. 3 weeks not driving the "big rig" and i am totally surprised how fast it accelerates :(
[06:53:43] <Loetmichel> mornin' btw.
[06:54:08] <XXCoder> lol. hey loet
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[07:35:08] <Tom_L> morning
[07:37:40] <JT-Cave> morning
[07:38:44] <Tom_L> 73 with a high of 99
[07:38:58] <JT-Cave> wow
[07:40:07] <Tom_L> heard some thunder but nothing is to come of it
[07:54:12] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: I got the pinkest pink and black 3.0, and it is not that wow
[07:54:46] <pink_vampire> yeah it is pink, but it is more of a neon pink then pink
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[07:57:11] <pink_vampire> about the black 3.0, I've tried to paint with it wood, and hope it will make it more of a 2D, but I can still see the wood texture very easy even after several thick coats.
[07:59:00] <pink_vampire> not sure if it worth the money, it is more of a novelty item in my opinion, not very practical.
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[10:11:53] <jymmmm> morning
[10:12:19] <jymmmm> Loetmichel: Just remove that lead foot and you'll be fine ;)
[10:15:38] <jymmmm> In the city: 69F currently, High 103F
[10:18:28] <JavaBean> in the city(airport) 111f for a high 86f @ 0751
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[10:22:31] <Tom_L> morning mr jymmmm
[10:22:45] <jymmmm> Tom_L: Hey, how goes it?
[10:22:55] <Tom_L> meh still breathin
[10:23:39] * jymmmm steps on tom's oxygen tube, "How about now?"
[10:23:57] * Tom_L lights the tube
[10:24:13] * jymmmm takes foot off tube
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[10:27:03] <jymmmm> I'm having the hardest time finding an inverter that will take LiPo voltages, or if I do, it's way too big
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[10:31:18] <jymmmm> Hey andypugh!
[10:31:34] <andypugh> Hai
[10:52:38] <jymmmm> Hmmm, 20 cells in parallel doesn't sound like a good idea
[10:53:01] <Tom_L> how come?
[10:53:13] <Tom_L> big current boost
[10:53:25] <jymmmm> if one shorted, would take out the whole pack
[10:54:03] <Tom_L> off grid commercial packs are done that way
[10:54:11] <Tom_L> dunno what kind of batteries those are
[10:55:11] <jymmmm> I *THINK* it might be better to build up series/parallel, to get up to the final pack
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[10:57:31] <jymmmm> Instead of 4s20p, maybe 2s5p, then combine them?
[10:58:03] <Tom_L> how is that different?
[10:58:24] <Tom_L> end result is the same
[10:59:13] <jymmmm> I want the BMS to "catch" any faults.
[11:01:30] <jymmmm> If one cell dies, I don't want to take out the whole battery
[11:01:56] <jymmmm> take down*
[11:05:40] <jymmmm> Got a replacement electric blanket yesterday that's rated for 180W, and pulls 254W
[11:06:52] <Tom_L> not very efficient
[11:07:28] <jymmmm> fire hazard
[11:09:26] <SpeedEvil> Fusing groups of cells also works.
[11:09:38] <jymmmm> Sunbeam electric blankets/throws/etc are really crappy.
[11:09:41] <SpeedEvil> (also for the minimal group)
[11:10:26] <pjm> afternoon all, about to do mapping of leadscrew. I have dro scale attached to X axis, plan is to set backlash to zero, measure every 5mm from zero to table end of travel, then back from end to zero and make the compensation file, is this the correct method to do the measurement?
[11:10:58] <perry_j1987> morning guys
[11:11:08] <jymmmm> SpeedEvil: I have a 4S 60A BMS coming, was going to use different cells but they are sold out, considering these in a 4S20P https://batteryhookup.com
[11:11:20] <andypugh> pjm: Souds like as good a way as any/
[11:11:46] <andypugh> pjm: I wonder if there is a way to automate it?
[11:12:04] <andypugh> Does the scale position appear in HAL?
[11:12:34] <SpeedEvil> I would also wonder if there is any systematic error at harmonics of 5mm.
[11:12:51] <Tom_L> pjm, that's how i did it
[11:13:09] <SpeedEvil> So I'd measure the odd 6mm as well
[11:13:11] <Tom_L> andypugh, if you had the scale wired to dump to a file
[11:13:28] <andypugh> Section 16: http://linuxcnc.org
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[11:13:58] <andypugh> You could make the moves with a Gcode loop, read in the scale and dump commanded and actual to a logfile.
[11:14:27] <Tom_L> never seen or used that
[11:15:32] <andypugh> With LinuxCNC the answer to “is that possible” is generally “Yes, but you need to know where to look in the docs”
[11:17:37] <Tom_L> or at least who to ask
[11:18:12] * jymmmm lol @ andypugh
[11:19:48] <rmu> even the impossible is possible "as long as you know how to program it yourself"
[11:20:59] <pjm> ok great thanks - i did wonder about automating it, the scales are standard i/q output, 5v so would be simple to add as another encoder on my 7i43
[11:21:13] <pjm> but then if i do that i may as well keep them on there for position feedback!
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[11:22:21] <andypugh> pjm: Yes, and in fact you can use them to correct the position, meaning that screw mapping and backlash comp become irrelevant.
[11:23:14] <pjm> well the DRO really is for my lathe, i'll see how the compensation does, if i'm not happy with it i'll order a pair of linear scales and use those for feedback
[11:23:39] <pjm> its a stepper system so my main issue is wondering what happens if the commanded position is in between 2 stepper motor poles
[11:26:14] <pjm> ok also interesting on the dumping it out, the DRO actually has a 9600 8n1 rs232 output
[11:26:28] <pjm> so automating a 5 or 10 move + read would be simples
[11:33:39] <andypugh> You could use linuxcncrsh to command linuxcnc to move while logging RS232 on a separate machine.
[11:34:01] <jymmmm> syslog?
[11:35:39] <pjm> andypugh, yeah actually thats a good idea, i would just write a simple g-code loop to go 0 to X limit and back in 5mm lumps
[11:35:55] <Tom_L> subroutine
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[12:12:53] * JavaBean grumbles, is trying to install vents into the crawlspace cover... wasps have taken over the vents and cover, neither of which should be causing such agression. the vents just went outside, the cover nor crawlspace appear to have hosted a nest... wtf are they being so agressive?
[12:21:42] <SpeedEvil> shop-vac left to run for a few hours can grab them as they fly in/out
[12:21:53] <SpeedEvil> Then bag up the vac and dispose.
[12:22:55] <JavaBean> its not the crawlspace they are interested in. its the cover that was removed, and the vents sitting next to it that i was measuring to cut
[12:23:31] <Tom_L> come back in the winter
[12:23:43] <SpeedEvil> odd
[12:24:58] <JavaBean> if i don't get vents into that cover, the water pressure pump will just keep overheating(in theory)... ever tried taking a shower were suddenly there is no pressure? or lights for that matter, the electrical in this doublewide are kinda fsck'd
[12:26:49] <jymmmm> JavaBean: https://www.harborfreight.com
[12:27:30] <JavaBean> i have one at another place... cover and vents are next to the door of the car
[12:28:34] <jymmmm> JavaBean: the wasps are UNDER the house, or on the outside of the cover?
[12:29:39] <JavaBean> they are not under the house. the cover is off from the crawlspace and a bit away from crawlspace. i was measuring to cut the cover so i could add vents
[12:30:29] <jymmmm> JavaBean: is there a nest in that area?
[12:31:07] <Tom_L> probably condensation from the pump draws them to the mud
[12:31:14] <JavaBean> if there is, it would be in the "eves" outside the garage that the cover/car are in
[12:31:15] <jymmmm> JavaBean: Is there a tractor supply near you?
[12:31:28] <JavaBean> about 30 miles away, jymmmm
[12:33:44] <jymmmm> JavaBean: This is intend for orchard spraying, you'll have to register to buy, I use one ounce per gallon of water... https://www.tractorsupply.com
[12:35:23] <JavaBean> hmmm, will need to remember that
[12:35:39] <jymmmm> JavaBean: good for everything except ants, including termites, spiders, wasps, etc
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[12:36:16] <JavaBean> also, just an FYI. a "supersoaker" full of dishsoap water works great against hives, and if you can manage to hit them, indiividual wasps/bees
[12:36:54] <jymmmm> JavaBean: blowtorch more effective
[12:38:07] <SpeedEvil> supersoaker full of gasoline
[12:38:14] <jymmmm> JavaBean: cause when they go after your sorry ass, that supersoaker aint gonna do shit, but the blowtorch you dont even need to get close :)
[12:38:35] <JavaBean> don't have one "on hand"... and being in the desert means many much highly flamable things right now... oh yeah, side note... nearby-ish airport in one direction says 111f for today and in the other direction about the same distance says 107f for today
[12:38:59] <jymmmm> JavaBean: which desert?
[12:39:21] <JavaBean> desert southwest... that 111f is for the el paso international airport
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[12:41:35] <jymmmm> JavaBean: I'm not saying set the tumbleweeds on fire, and hopefully they aren't growing THAT CLOSE to the house.
[12:43:47] <JavaBean> not just the tumble weeds, the bare wood and/or osb and plywood... if i said normal building materials become quite flammable within a few years outside around here, i wouldn't be making it seem like a big enough issue
[12:44:43] <jymmmm> JavaBean: If you are already going to Tractor Supply... Generic Round Up weed killer super cheap.... https://www.tractorsupply.com
[12:45:26] <JavaBean> already dug up the "weeds" near the garage, gotta keep "fire safety" in mind
[12:47:02] <jymmmm> JavaBean: Make a borax solution and spray on the flammable stuff, been used for over a 100 years as a fire retardant... https://www.borax.com
[12:49:39] <JavaBean> interesting, thanks jymmmm
[12:49:58] <JavaBean> also, i managed to kill 5 of the lil fucks... but the others seem to be "gone"
[12:50:51] <jymmmm> JavaBean: I discovered it as sawmills way back were spraying it on finished wood to reduce fire hazard
[12:51:22] <jymmmm> JavaBean: Pfff, when you get to 500, let us know :D
[12:52:31] <JavaBean> trying to not let nests get that big... there are 3 bugzappers, a flytrap(in garage) and a few wasp traps scattered around within 100feet of this house
[12:57:00] <_unreal_> veegee, you live?
[12:57:52] <_unreal_> veegee, wondering is it possible to use the programer on the ICSP to interface with the dspic like the serial interface for getting console?
[12:58:19] <_unreal_> all I "" need "" is to gain working access so I can get the paramiters setup
[12:58:30] <_unreal_> parameters
[13:03:50] <JT-Cave> I wonder if there is another program for windblows to replace notepad++ having that annoying popup that always fails to work is too much
[13:04:40] <skunkworks> Atom?
[13:04:54] <jymmmm> JT-Cave: Yeah, hang on a sec...
[13:05:11] <skunkworks> https://atom.io
[13:05:30] <JT-Cave> thanks
[13:07:03] <jymmmm> https://www.textpad.com but it looks like the website is being updated
[13:07:09] <skunkworks> (have a co-worker that really likes it - I have only lightly used it)
[13:12:42] <flyback> <flyback> btw my local walmart had anker 2.4 dual socket ac adaptors on clearance for $2
[13:12:42] <flyback> <flyback> and 12/24 to 5v@4.8a cigge plugs for $2 on clearance
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[13:18:10] <Tom_L> what? you don't use 'word' for a txt editor?
[13:18:38] <jymmmm> Tom_L: EDLIN
[13:19:05] <Tom_L> copy con
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[13:20:28] <roycroft> there's a vi-like editor for windows
[13:20:38] <roycroft> also, microemacs has run on dos/windows for decades
[13:25:39] <W1N9Zr0> https://alternativeto.net
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[13:44:50] <veegee> _unreal_ yes I think so
[13:45:03] <veegee> I remember doing that with mplab a long time ago
[13:45:08] <veegee> Or was that on STM32? I forgot
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[13:45:26] <veegee> but either way if you have a programmer, debug the UART like I said
[13:45:39] <veegee> put some code in there to stream data out on the UART
[13:46:14] <_unreal_> I really dont know coding well
[13:46:31] <_unreal_> but what I'm looking for is if I can do a serial console via the programmer instead of the serial interface
[13:46:35] <_unreal_> I know the programmer works
[13:47:00] <SpeedEvil> 'eight megabytes and fully locked in CPU cache'
[13:47:08] <_unreal_> at this point all I "" need "" is to get the the settings done. then I can get the mesa 7i96 setup
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[14:14:01] <_unreal_> FINALLY!!!!!!!! I just found my PSU for the old ibm laptop that has a serial port on it
[14:14:18] <_unreal_> I do not know how it got into a filing cabinet
[14:23:12] <JavaBean> grah, them lil demons came back. and brought more friends. darnit i was almost done, but wow thermometer says its 98f in the garage?? i guess i can take a break
[14:28:49] <JavaBean> this time though, its rather clear what their objective was... had a bucket of water for cement
[14:45:00] <jymmmm> JavaBean: cover the bucket
[14:45:06] <jymmmm> add salt
[14:45:08] <jymmmm> both
[14:47:00] <jymmmm> JavaBean: drive 60 miles to get a weed burner and nuke the lil bastards, don't forget the marshmellows :D
[14:47:26] <jymmmm> JavaBean: https://www.youtube.com
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[14:49:08] <JavaBean> actually, added soap to the water. seems to be working well as an imprompto wasp killing trap
[14:50:27] <ve7it> _unreal_, had a thought on your issues.... what clock oscillator did you use for the pic? There were 2 versions... a 6Mhz xtal and a 14.318 packaged clock oscillator. They require the software to be compiled for the appropriate clock frequency... that would explain why your serial stuff is funny
[14:51:48] <jymmmm> JavaBean: nice
[14:54:20] <JavaBean> was mostly done with it anyway, even with water as expensive as it is up here. sacrificing 2 or so gallons to murder a bunch of wasps ain't a thing
[14:54:36] <ve7it> _unreal_, look at line 47,48 of main.c the 25sept version used 6Mhz, the 29jan version used 14.318Mhz, so you could used use the appropriate hex file in the project if you dont want to recompile
[15:10:14] <jymmmm> DIY water filter (kinda cool) https://www.youtube.com
[15:17:40] <_unreal_> hi
[15:17:56] <_unreal_> one sec let me switch tothe other computer got to log off here
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[15:20:17] <_unreal_> hello
[15:20:31] <_unreal_> ok what ever you posted you'll have to post it again. different computer
[15:20:39] <_unreal_> different room
[15:22:32] <_unreal_> ok crystal
[15:22:37] <_unreal_> ve7it, 6mhz
[15:22:44] <_unreal_> I used what was on the web site
[15:24:13] <_unreal_> hum I have no idea which one is/was used
[15:24:27] <_unreal_> arg...
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[15:29:58] <ve7it> _unreal_, on web page.... last line of comments in Notes section! http://ve7it.cowlug.org
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[15:31:35] <_unreal_> arg.. I'm trying to remember which computer I used
[15:32:18] <_unreal_> if I had to guess I used the 29th 2k8 one
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[15:36:07] <_unreal_> ya i'm 99% sure used the 2k8
[15:37:16] <_unreal_> fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck... I have no easy way of re-programing. I'm going to have to get my laptop setup with mplab
[15:39:12] <ve7it> or reflash with the hex file from the earlier package
[15:39:30] <_unreal_> what I mean is the controller boxes are not setup in a way they are easy to move
[15:39:33] <ve7it> just do 1 board until you get things talking
[15:39:42] <_unreal_> slightly hard connected to other parts
[15:40:00] <_unreal_> I have to get my laptop setup so I can use the programer
[15:40:07] <_unreal_> sigh
[15:40:34] <_unreal_> well that explains the jiberish
[15:42:30] <ve7it> problem solved.... dont know why I didnt pick up on that point earlier... it has been 12 years since I worked on that stuff!
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[15:44:09] <_unreal_> I have 14mhz xtals but wayyyyyy to much trouble to replace them
[15:44:37] <_unreal_> I'm pounding my head on the table I'm at right now btw
[15:45:27] <JavaBean> jymmmm: elpaso has gotten the its first "extreme heat warning" issued in about 3 decades
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[15:48:03] <jymmmm> JavaBean: go play in the river =)
[15:48:18] <_unreal_> ve7it, are there any major difference between the software versoins?
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[15:48:40] <_unreal_> wondering if it would be better to recompile? OR ifit would be better to just use the 2k6 version?
[15:49:20] <JavaBean> river?? are you familiar with this area? the "river" around here is basically a toxic mud path
[15:50:02] <jymmmm> JavaBean: Ok then, hop across the river, they have ice cold coronas :D
[15:50:24] <ve7it> _unreal_, I dont think so, from source file // Nov 21 2006 -- changed osc to use a 14.318mhz packaged osc instead of a 6mhz xtal
[15:50:24] <ve7it> / -- added j x.x command for servo tuning
[15:50:24] <ve7it> / -- added error output on pin 22/pwm3l/re4
[15:50:35] <JavaBean> corona?? dude, that company ain't doing so well lately, for some odd reason or another
[15:51:05] <jymmmm> Dos Equis Lager then
[15:51:35] <_unreal_> ok so it would be better to recompile then
[15:51:50] <_unreal_> just to add the new features
[15:51:58] <JavaBean> not too bad an idea. need to mortar some 4inch block first tho
[15:52:56] <JavaBean> but with the inside of the garage reading 103 right now... not much desire to do so
[15:52:57] <_unreal_> I like the idea of having an ERROR feed back and I dont know the full aspct of the servo tuning
[15:53:03] <_unreal_> but i'm sure its a feature I'm going to want
[15:55:32] <_unreal_> ve7it, ?? would you be willing to recompile the 2k8 for the 6mhz xtal? just thinking it would save me time. while I get the other computer setup JUST to be able to program the controllers
[15:55:55] <JavaBean> https://www.zdnet.com
[15:56:31] <ve7it> sure... I did get mplab 8 setup so I think I can generate the hex file for you
[15:57:17] <_unreal_> That would be wonderful. ya i'm booting my laptop right now. I have not booted into win10 on this laptop in prob 8 months :S
[15:57:40] <_unreal_> I dont want to touch it to the internet because its going to go UPDATES UPDAGES updages!!!
[16:01:11] <_unreal_> ! wait a sec 8 months is not exactly accurate exactly I did boot it to windows 2 weeks ago. had to bring it into work but i never connected it to the internet. a captain of a 30 million dollar yacht was ahving me make a CAD drawing for a water jetting project for a floor pannel in the engine room
[16:07:43] <_unreal_> stilll installing.. sigh
[16:16:05] <_unreal_> LOL intsll file corupted redownloading
[16:24:19] <ve7it> _unreal_, ok... should be on the website now... http://ve7it.cowlug.org
[16:25:24] <ve7it> when I went to build it, I had to do several of the items mentioned in the notes section of the web page
[16:26:05] <ve7it> just in case you want to build from source
[16:26:12] <_unreal_> I see
[16:26:35] <_unreal_> hehe I'm 300 o f900 megs downloading again the installer for mplabs
[16:26:46] <_unreal_> for some reason the one that I downloaded says corupted
[16:27:47] <ve7it> I have never tried building it on mplabX... I have mplab ide v8.33 running under wine
[16:31:42] <XXCoder> pink_vampire: you need couple coats of black 3.0. could use black 2.0 which is cheaper as first paint. it helps a LOT
[16:36:45] <_unreal_> this download is sooooooo slow
[16:36:50] <_unreal_> 590mb downloaded
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[16:46:51] <perry_j1987> sometimes i shouldnt restock the beer fridge in the shop
[16:57:01] <pink_vampire> how stiff is peek?
[16:58:26] <jymmmm> perry_j1987: get a soda machine and stock the beer in that at $5 PROFIT!!!!
[17:00:45] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: I tried.. maybe my vision is above average?
[17:01:03] <XXCoder> definitely neefd second coat try that yet?
[17:01:09] <XXCoder> because wood grabs em
[17:01:32] <pink_vampire> I thing there is like 5 or even more
[17:02:14] <pink_vampire> the pink looks very similar to the pink spray marker that you spray on the ground
[17:03:35] <XXCoder> it does look neon pink but it doesnt shine in uv
[17:03:41] <XXCoder> so its not neon.
[17:05:40] <XXCoder> it looks less black in person because human eyes is so much more sensive than camera
[17:09:04] <_unreal_> ?????? just got back inside was taking the edger to the side walk. came back and the laptop was OFF or suspended
[17:09:05] <_unreal_> wtf
[17:09:29] <_unreal_> and I ignore it on the boot now its booting to linux LOL
[17:10:40] <_unreal_> ve7it, that power supply at idle apears to run at 27v
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[17:15:07] <ve7it> should not be a problem... dont want to see it over 30... you could always put a little load on it... got any 28v light bulbs? maybe from the boats?
[17:15:59] <ve7it> just to be clear, you do have a +25v and a -25v supply?
[17:16:48] <_unreal_> I have the one that you agreed should be good from ebay
[17:17:06] <_unreal_> and hum... light bulb or bulbs?
[17:17:37] <_unreal_> I DO have a 2.4k resistor on both caps between +/- polls to drain them on power loss
[17:18:24] <_unreal_> wondering if that dwnload finsihed or WTF?
[17:18:29] <_unreal_> was outside doing some lawn work
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[17:19:51] <ve7it> soemthing like a 28volt aircraft bulb on each cap would probably add 1/2 amp drain or so to keep the peak voltage down... like a car tail light only 24/28v
[17:21:27] <ve7it> do you have to unmount your boards to get to the programming pins? or have a way to program the chips off the boards?
[17:22:32] <_unreal_> nope did not fnish downloading computer shut off for some reason
[17:22:47] <_unreal_> no I can get to the pins easy
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[17:23:09] <_unreal_> I built an adapter for the serial programing to make it easy and all in one area.
[17:23:21] <_unreal_> programming is just a matter of connecting to the jumpers
[17:27:01] <_unreal_> yep downloading from scratch
[17:31:39] <jymmmm> Um why would then fan on a HVAC unit be sound like it's RPM's are changing at random, but never in the years past?
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[17:34:01] <jymmmm> Smells like something is getting hot
[17:43:28] <Tom_L> she's gonna blow!
[17:44:57] <Tom_L> jymmmm, are the bearings going out?
[17:45:22] <Tom_L> i've had to replace fan motors at least once or twice
[17:45:38] <Tom_L> jymmmm, outside fan or furnace blower?
[17:45:57] <Tom_L> last time the cap went out on the furnace blower. $5 part
[17:46:41] <jymmmm> Tom_L: IDK, it doesn't have that "grinding" sound, but it seems like the RPM's are lowering, then it kinda "wakes up" a bit. I DO smell something getting hot. I turned off the AC for now. Would a bad cap act like this?
[17:46:52] <jymmmm> Tom_L: outside unit
[17:47:04] <Tom_L> see what's hot before it cools
[17:47:41] <Tom_L> i've had to replace the cap on the outside unit before as well
[17:48:00] <Tom_L> i'm thinking it's for the compressor though
[17:48:41] <jymmmm> I'll have to take it apartto see whats hot
[17:49:02] <jymmmm> I replaced the cap for the compressor last winter
[17:49:08] <jymmmm> as well as contactor and a relay
[17:49:49] <jymmmm> Well, IDK if it'll still be hot by the time I take it apart, Let me pull the fuses and take it apart
[17:50:34] <Tom_L> on the inside unit, if the bushings get too worn on the motor it acts like that
[17:50:43] <Tom_L> but it's capacitor start
[17:50:51] <Tom_L> not sure the outside fan is
[17:51:03] <Tom_L> it may be
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[17:57:25] <_unreal_> !@#$!@#$ computer did it to me again. just discovered that some windows update turned on power saving now I know why it kept turning off on me
[17:57:55] <jymmmm> Tom_L: Ok, took it apart, the motor is still at 208F
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[17:58:35] <Tom_L> maybe a bit warm?
[17:59:22] <jymmmm> Tom_L: too hot to touch for a fan I'd think, unless that was sarcasim
[18:00:16] <jymmmm> Tom_L: how does a defect cap act like?
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[18:01:39] <jymmmm> Tom_L: there is no little "stickout" for a cap like I have seen on other motors, but the label says 4mfd, probably inside the cabinet
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[18:17:01] <jymmmm> It's FREE SLURPY DAY at 7-11
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[18:22:22] <Tom_L> jymmmm, i think a bad cap just makes it not start or slow to start
[18:22:44] <Tom_L> it could be mounted to the frame like the compressor one
[18:22:59] <jymmmm> Tom_L: Ah, I replaced the main cap last year too... https://i.imgur.com
[18:24:10] <Tom_L> ask rue, he's an electrician
[18:28:05] <Tom_L> jymmmm, it should be fine as far as heat....
[18:28:15] <Tom_L> it's thermally protected :)
[18:28:31] <jymmmm> Tom_L: sarcasam?
[18:28:39] <Tom_L> who me??
[18:28:48] <jymmmm> I'll take that as a yes =)
[18:29:43] <jymmmm> Motor goes from $150 to $250
[18:29:53] <Tom_L> sounds about right
[18:30:02] <Tom_L> does it turn freely?
[18:30:21] <Tom_L> how much side play?
[18:41:08] <JavaBean> jymmmm: hit 106f according to my thermometer
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[19:41:23] <_unreal_> finally the instsall is working. ended up downloading 4 times. finally figure out the issue. both the power savings was on AND my laptop is missing a rubber foot the fan was smothered and the lapto was over heating
[19:41:34] <_unreal_> was wondering why it kept shutting down
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[22:08:54] <pink_vampire> hi
[22:09:00] <pink_vampire> any life?
[22:09:17] <XXCoder> nah zombies left
[22:09:25] <XXCoder> ohh fresh brains here
[22:09:26] <jymmmm> Freezing as many jugs of water as I can. Tomorrow is suppose to be 98F and no AC :(
[22:09:37] <XXCoder> ow
[22:10:09] <Tom_L> jymmmm, did you determine if it's the fan motor?
[22:10:09] <jymmmm> I'm out of jugs :C
[22:10:41] <jymmmm> Tom_L: I'm waiting a little bit longer for it to cool down to test, it's a rat nest of wires that I have to detangle
[22:10:53] <Tom_L> mmm
[22:12:09] <jymmmm> Tom_L: If I leave the fan running tomorrow, will it just blow up the motor, or could I damage something else too?
[22:13:43] <jymmmm> I can't get parts till monday anyway
[22:15:48] * JavaBean sends his condolences to jymmmm...
[22:16:32] <jymmmm> JavaBean: thanks, I apprecite it
[22:16:47] <pink_vampire> lol
[22:16:50] <JavaBean> how hot did it manage to get indoors today?
[22:17:05] <jymmmm> 82F
[22:17:23] <Tom_L> did the fan quit entirely?
[22:17:31] <JavaBean> ouch, i made it to 80f... even though my a/c is fine
[22:17:40] <jymmmm> Tom_L: No, it still ran
[22:17:42] <pink_vampire> here it is 33.8C
[22:18:01] <JavaBean> indoors, pink.. we were talking indoors
[22:18:15] <pink_vampire> yes
[22:18:25] <pink_vampire> in my home
[22:18:43] <JavaBean> i thought vampires were weak to heat... wtf?
[22:18:58] <XXCoder> 65f here
[22:19:04] <pink_vampire> right now the thermometer on the table show 33.81
[22:19:17] <pink_vampire> brass part that I made https://i.imgur.com
[22:19:32] <skunkworks> https://youtu.be
[22:19:57] <jdh> guess I shouldn't mention I have it down to 68f
[22:20:08] <XXCoder> skunkworks: nice
[22:21:04] <XXCoder> so its roughing with larger radius corners
[22:21:08] <XXCoder> then slower on finish
[22:21:24] <JavaBean> $wa 106F in C
[22:21:33] * JavaBean grumbles
[22:21:34] <XXCoder> no wa here
[22:21:45] <jdh> <wa> damned hot.
[22:21:49] <jymmmm> jdh: MY HVAC AC outdoor fan motor is crapping out today, can't get parts till monday
[22:22:02] <jdh> that sucks.
[22:22:22] <jymmmm> jdh: And suppose to be 98F tomorrow
[22:22:25] <pink_vampire> skunkworks: nice
[22:22:50] <JavaBean> ok so this thermometer that i have in the garage outside hit 106f/41.1c today... the 8kbtu window a/c has been running all day, and its 80f in this room
[22:23:35] <jdh> I have a 2ton window unit for the garage.
[22:23:52] <jymmmm> JavaBean: That bites, I lived in a place that i had 3 window AC units going
[22:24:15] <jdh> jymmmm: I'd be out buying a window unit for the bedroom
[22:24:18] <JavaBean> my garage is attached but has no doors and the roof is vented through its peak
[22:24:35] <jdh> I have a little one I got that can run off a generator for post-hurricanes
[22:25:04] <jdh> skunkworks: how did you generate the gcode for the hex?
[22:25:50] <JavaBean> looking at going with a "small-ish" 48v off-grid power system... this house has great access to wind and daystar tends to be rather bright. bonus points 48vdc mini-splits exist
[22:27:57] <jymmmm> jdh: Good idea. I cna't get to the store tonight before it closes, but I can tomorrow morning. They only have 5000 BTU units in stock, but something is better than nothing at all.
[22:28:59] * JavaBean says hmmm, thinks his a/c is a 8kbtu... could be less, would not be surprised
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[22:47:06] <skunkworks> jdh: it is a pretty simple hal componant. Calculates a polygon from the spindle position
[22:48:19] <Tom_L> skunkworks, good stuff...
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[23:08:17] <CaptHindsight> perry_j1987: Klipper is written by the same Kevin as seabios
[23:08:37] <CaptHindsight> he probably could not stand marlin either
[23:09:08] <perry_j1987> nope he cant
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[23:26:04] <CaptHindsight> marlin is like wearing dirty underwear
[23:26:19] <CaptHindsight> it does the job but it's just yucky
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