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[09:12:15] <Tripanarium> frispete: Knock knock...
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[09:16:12] <Tripanarium> why "eric"s doesn't get the documentation paths through the system environment variables?
[09:17:26] <altendky> Tripanarium: how did you install Eric?
[09:25:34] <Tripanarium> altendky: with frispete Repo: https://software.opensuse.org
[09:32:13] <altendky> Tripanarium: which docs are you referring to? just docs for eric itself? you can see where the docs are and eric doesn't find them?
[09:36:33] <Tripanarium> altendky: eric's documentation is the only one I can read. others return a message that message is not avayable on predefined paths!
[09:37:18] <Tripanarium> should i install anything else or manually set those "environment vars"?
[09:38:26] <altendky> Tripanarium: 'others' like python or qt? sorry, i don't use eric. just willing to maybe take a look once i know the specifics. are you getting an error?
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[09:50:26] <Tripanarium> altedky: Not an error, but boring messages saying that no documentation is avayable... I believe that I can fixe some entering paths manually, but qt help has no html afaik
[09:51:20] <jthornton> is it possible to test a pyqt5/python3 application in a virtual environment? pip doesn't have pyqt5 that I can find and apt-get will not install in a virtual environment.
[09:53:02] <altendky> jthornton: what os? i always install pyqt via pip inside a virtualenv or venv
[09:53:35] <altendky> Tripanarium: you might take it up with the package manager
[09:54:00] <altendky> jthornton: well, os and python version and the version of pyqt5 you are trying to get
[09:54:02] <jthornton> linux mint 18
[09:54:27] <jthornton> what pip install package-name?
[09:54:43] <altendky> jthornton: pyqt5 (it's case insensitive iirc)
[09:54:46] <jthornton> I set up the virtual environment with python 3
[09:54:56] <altendky> jthornton: what 3.4?
[09:54:59] <altendky> err
[09:55:03] <altendky> jthornton: python 3.4?
[09:55:12] <jthornton> ok, I was trying to use python3-pygt or something like that
[09:55:37] <jthornton> yea 3.4.3
[09:55:38] <altendky> jthornton: you can search at https://pypi.org for proper names. python3-pyqt is a system package name
[09:55:47] <altendky> jthornton: yeah, no wheels for current versions for 3.4
[09:56:04] <altendky> jthornton: i use pyenv to install all the copies of python i use for development
[09:56:05] <jthornton> ok, I need to move to my debian pc it has 3.5
[09:56:15] <altendky> jthornton: or pyenv :]
[09:56:25] <jthornton> pyenv?
[09:56:25] <altendky> but sure
[09:57:04] <altendky> jthornton: https://github.com it is a tool for installing (building from source) and managing arbitrary python versions
[09:57:15] <jthornton> ah thanks
[09:57:32] <altendky> jthornton: they are installed in pyenv's own directory in your user directory so there is no conflict with system stuff.
[09:57:49] <jthornton> cool, I'll start with that in the morning
[09:57:57] <altendky> jthornton: but you do still want to use virtualenv or venv from those pyenv installed copies just lke you would from the os python
[09:58:21] <jthornton> ok thanks for the tip
[09:59:01] <jthornton> in my endless searching the last few days I came across pipenv, what are your thoughts on that?
[09:59:49] <altendky> jthornton: nice idea, maybe someday it'll be good... it's used up a lot of my time (including getting PRs accepted) and still isn't usable for me.
[10:00:10] <jthornton> ok, I'll stick with virtualenv
[10:00:15] <altendky> jthornton: some of that is just crazy bugs, other is their opinionated design decisions
[10:00:17] <jthornton> thanks again for the information
[10:00:38] <altendky> jthornton: it's actually wrapped around virtualenv, so you'd be using virtualenv either way. :] just behind the scenes or directly
[10:01:10] <jthornton> yea I read that and the part about it being easier but it was not
[10:01:50] <altendky> jthornton: it can be easier in some cases than a complete pinned virtualenv (requirements.txt etc)
[10:02:59] <jthornton> well I need to go shovel dirt before it gets too hot out thanks again
[10:03:12] <altendky> jthornton: enjoy... or something :]
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[12:53:35] <jthornton> ok I got pyenv figured out and have Installed Python-3.5.6 to /home/john/.pyenv/versions/3.5.6, I can't figure out how to install a virtual environment with virtualenv specifying that python version, any clues?
[12:55:24] <altendky> jthornton: are you able to run that python? If so, what command?
[12:55:42] <altendky> In general, virtualenv -p thepython myenv
[12:55:45] <jthornton> let me see
[12:57:41] <jthornton> ok I see the -p option in the virtualenv docs
[13:00:58] <altendky> jthornton: for venv you would thepython -m venv myenv
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[13:05:36] <jthornton> altendky: yes I have it figured out now, I need to do pyenv global 3.5.6 in the virtual environment
[13:06:15] <altendky> jthornton: there's usually a couple catches with pyenv
[13:06:20] <altendky> But it's quite nice
[13:07:23] <jthornton> yes, I'm back on track now I think thanks for the help
[13:11:16] <altendky> Cheers
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